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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24901: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:46:25 PM

Wait,Vegeta's More Dakka worked for once?

Amazing.Let's celebrate with the Bingo scene.

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#24902: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:48:54 PM

I'll pop the cork.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24903: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:49:16 PM

Super Saiyan Gohan didn't take much in the way of damage from Perfect Cell's attacks, even though Perfect Cell was deliberately trying to hurt him to piss him off.

Furthermore, just because we know that Gohan is stronger than Cell at this point, it doesn't mean that Cell knows that. Yes, he can feel powerlevels, but Gohan can also mask his powerlevel, which he might be doing subconsciously, since it's very likely Gohan himself doesn't actually know how strong he is... which is supported by him thinking he can't beat Cell even though Cell and Goku's fight looked like they were clowning around to him (because he couldn't imagine them being weaker than himself), and by him not believing that he can overcome Cell's Kamehameha later. While it's true that Cell was holding back, Goku knew that, and he was still confident that Gohan could win.

So... yeah, I still think SSJ Gohan was stronger than Cell, it's just that the only one who knew is Goku.

edited 10th Sep '15 2:53:56 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24904: Sep 10th 2015 at 3:13:13 PM

He didn't mask his battle power. He powered up to full power on front of everyone before the fight.

@Tobias "is that 50% of SS 2 Gohan's power was enough to destroy Super Perfect Cell."

Which isn't true. Piccolo says it's not enough, we then see it's not enough, and Goku outright says Gohan is capable of more, and then Gohan powers up right at the end. Not necessarily to full, but more than 50%.

Cell's goading is also not the main/only reason to think he's stronger. There's also the fact that his true speed is greater than Gohan's, his power up is large, and base Cell could still put up a fight and injure Gohan.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24905: Sep 10th 2015 at 3:18:58 PM

Freaking shy potentials.Staying all closed up in their cshells,till some random head gives them a pep talk.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24906: Sep 10th 2015 at 4:56:01 PM

[up][up]Assuming that Gohan powers up to his maximum power, instead of what he thinks is his maximum power, which Gohan has never been portrayed as being consciously able to achieve.

Put simply: I don't think Goku was waiting for Gohan to bust out SSJ 2. I think Goku was waiting for Gohan to just use all of his power because that was more than enough to wtfstomp Cell.

And again, we don't know if Goku meant that Gohan was not at 50%, or if Goku meant that Gohan was not using all of that 50%. I believe the latter is true.

And as for Piccolo saying it's not enough... Piccolo was also worried earlier, even though Cell's beatdown was doing nothing to Gohan.

edited 10th Sep '15 4:56:55 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#24907: Sep 10th 2015 at 5:53:20 PM

My opinion: SS 2 Kid Gohan >= Super Perfect Cell >> Perfect Cell > SS 1 Kid Gohan. The only thing contradicting this is one line that can be interpreted multiple ways.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24908: Sep 10th 2015 at 6:33:14 PM

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#24909: Sep 10th 2015 at 7:05:36 PM

Damn, I wish I had known about that video sooner. [lol]

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#24910: Sep 10th 2015 at 7:11:42 PM

That I am wrong is your opinion which I disagree with.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24911: Sep 10th 2015 at 7:33:03 PM

You may disagree with it as you wish.

You're still wrong though.

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#24912: Sep 10th 2015 at 7:35:21 PM

You saying that is just as, if not less, valid as me saying that you are wrong.

edited 10th Sep '15 8:18:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#24913: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:01:50 PM

I dream of the day Saiga is wrong so I can use that on him.

Nothing Personal Saiga.tongue

Also, I totally called it, so nobody else can do it.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#24914: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:14:05 PM

Saiga's never wrong, though, so you'll be waiting for eternity.

Even if he were wrong, reality would warp to make him right.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#24915: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:18:16 PM

Well then I'll just fast-forward reality so the events that would transpire to make Saiga be right would never happen, meaning he'd be wrong!

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#24916: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:27:27 PM

I've recently remembered there was a new anime and decided to watch it. I've just finished episode 5 and it is better than I was expecting. Some missteps (Videl and Buu, specifically), but otherwise it is decently fun. Nothing amazing, but I am convinced my love for DBZ is mostly Nostagial Filter, anyway, so I am not surprised.

I particularly like Beerus, though. He is way better than I thought he would be. I wasn't fully convinced at first, but this last episode sold me on him. He really acts like a deity, witch is a very cool dynamic. His interactions with Kaioh were great.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24917: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:49:07 PM

Idea for a new DB movie: Resurrection N. Nappa comes back for revenge against Vegeta. Turns out Nappa had a wife and kids who escaped Planet Vegeta's destruction, and we learn his painfully sad past from them. They revive him and being brought back after more than a decade of being dead given him the most powerful Zenkai ever. It instantly elevates him to Super Saiyan 3 and gives him a prehensile beard. That's how he fights now.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#24918: Sep 10th 2015 at 8:57:43 PM

Can we later get Resurrection R, with Super Saiyan 3 Raditz's hair that threatens to engulf the entire planet?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#24919: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:17:39 AM

Uzumaki did the evil hair better though.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#24920: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:20:06 AM

[up][up] So long as Krillin masters the Fist of the Nose Hair to defeat him.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24921: Sep 11th 2015 at 3:23:34 AM

Everyone talks about SSJ 3 Raditz. I want SSJ 2 Raditz because the image of ALL of that hair standing up over his head is hilarious in my mind.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#24922: Sep 11th 2015 at 5:15:15 AM

The hair differs, doesn't it?

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#24923: Sep 11th 2015 at 6:00:58 AM

IIRC,the Saiyans from Heroes with Raditz hair have it slightly going upwards in SS 1.

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#24924: Sep 11th 2015 at 8:54:00 AM

Idea for a new DB movie: Resurrection N. Nappa comes back for revenge against Vegeta. Turns out Nappa had a wife and kids who escaped Planet Vegeta's destruction, and we learn his painfully sad past from them. They revive him and being brought back after more than a decade of being dead given him the most powerful Zenkai ever. It instantly elevates him to Super Saiyan 3 and gives him a prehensile beard. That's how he fights now.

Does the movie end with everyone agreeing that perhaps keeping the most evil Saiyan character around while Nappa and Raditz go f*ck themselves in the afterlife wasn't entirely fair and letting Nappa stick around and be part of the gang?

  • NAPPA: Vegeta! I am here for vengeance for the fact that you killed me for no good reason!
  • PICCOLO: Wow, you know, I think I'm just going to sit back and let this happen. I honestly could not care less about the stakes of this fight.
  • GOKU: If he beats up Vegeta fast enough, I might get a turn!
  • PICCOLO: That's not making me care more.

edited 11th Sep '15 8:55:45 AM by TobiasDrake

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#24925: Sep 11th 2015 at 8:55:14 AM

Years later, Dragon Ball fans are bitching about how useless Nappa is and try to contrive ways to make him relevant to fights.

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