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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2451: Apr 10th 2013 at 1:34:40 PM

While true, the sheer abundance of titties in Bleach dwarfs the number of titties in DB.

Hell, Bleach's female cast is just flat out like two or three times larger than DB's at the very least.

Also i must admit that there is one voice recast I am enjoying immensely and that is Ayres' Freeza. I'm actually enjoying Freeza as a villain for once.

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#2452: Apr 10th 2013 at 7:42:38 PM

Ayres' Frieza was my favorite. It's hilarious how much he sounds like Little Kuriboh. Really, I was just glad that they kept the OVER 9000!!! line without spending too much time on it.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2453: Apr 10th 2013 at 8:03:34 PM

Whoops, wrong thread.

edited 10th Apr '13 8:05:52 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2454: Apr 11th 2013 at 12:59:56 AM

Ya know, watching Kai made me realize something I've never thought of before. (maybe I'm just slow)

Freeza wanted the Dragon Balls so damned badly...and yet he never once mentions then when he goes to Earth. Why the fuck didn't he plan to make himself immortal there? It be a great bonus in addition to gaining his revenge on Goku.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#2455: Apr 11th 2013 at 1:09:34 AM

Did he even know there were Dragon Balls anymore after Namek? XP

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2456: Apr 11th 2013 at 1:11:22 AM

He should've. If he intercepted the transmissions from Vegeta's or Nappa's Scoutes about the Dragon Balls on Namek then he should have gotten info from Raditz's Scouter, same as Vegeta and Nappa did.

Also watch this video:

Goku vs. Frieza takes OVER 4 HOURS!!!!!!

..seriously though, that's insane. Imagine 4 hours + all the Ginyu/Bulma filler and Gohan returning to fight Frieza and God knos what else.

I wonder how long Goku vs. Frieza clocks in at in Kai...

edited 11th Apr '13 1:18:40 AM by Nikkolas

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2457: Apr 11th 2013 at 1:18:09 AM

Because he was really, really obsessed with Goku.

Also maybe he wasn't so fussed with immortality anymore now that he had to plug himself in for waste removal.

edited 11th Apr '13 1:18:20 AM by Saiga

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2458: Apr 11th 2013 at 1:58:00 AM

I will be finishing the Kai Frieza Saga tonight I hope. Then tomorrow I can finally get started on what I've really been interested in seeing - Kai Android/Cell Saga.

I gotta admit, I never much cared for Nadolny's Gohan (absolutely love her Kid Goku though) but she has one helluva scream for when he turns SSJ 2.

Clinkenbeard has her work cut out for her to top that.

edited 11th Apr '13 1:58:43 AM by Nikkolas

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2459: Apr 11th 2013 at 5:49:29 PM

What was Vegeta's power level against final form Freeza after the zenkai?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2460: Apr 11th 2013 at 5:52:02 PM

He was never given one for that zenkai.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2461: Apr 11th 2013 at 5:54:06 PM

So we don't even know if he was stronger than Freeza's third form?

Bummer.

Also, you said Goku used Kaoken x 100 against Slug? Isn't...that stronger than Super Saiyan?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2462: Apr 11th 2013 at 5:54:09 PM

Apparently it's 250k according to the wiki. It said it was stated on the battle power page. Whatever that means.

edit: It says Frieza is over 1 million in his third form.

[up]Yes it is. Granted at that point the Super Saiyan concept wasn't fully fleshed out so they didn't know how much stronger it would make Goku.

edited 11th Apr '13 5:57:08 PM by Kostya

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2463: Apr 11th 2013 at 6:21:15 PM

250,000 was before the final Zenkai. And yeah, we don't know how he'd compare to Freeza's third form. Most of Freeza's transformations are pointless like that.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2464: Apr 11th 2013 at 6:22:25 PM

Yeah pretty much. That third form was a complete waste of time.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2465: Apr 11th 2013 at 6:27:28 PM

Didn't he only keep the third form for a single episode? Yeah, it did seem incredibly pointless. It being the stupidest looking form also doesn't help.

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#2466: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:09:47 PM

Just like Cell's second form eh?

Man, some forms just don't have any luck.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2467: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:12:26 PM

Yeah, second form Cell was pretty stupid looking. I can understand why Toriyama's former editor called him and said "What the hell is this thing?" after he was introduced.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2468: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:14:27 PM

[up][up] Yeah, Cell's second form is pretty pointless. Part of that is pressure from his former editor, though.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2469: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:16:45 PM

They had to show strong Vegeta and Trunks were now so they could be irrelevant when Goku and Gohan came back.

The superior Saiyan family.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2470: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:26:42 PM

Yeah, Semi-Perfect Cell gets utterly humiliated, too. First he gets held off by Tien of all people, then he gets humiliated by Vegeta.

Rather ironic that it's his Semi-Perfect form that kills Goku after being reverted to it.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2471: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:28:18 PM

[up]That was only when he decided to suicide bomb the planet. In a straight up fight he would have lost.

edited 11th Apr '13 7:28:33 PM by Kostya

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2472: Apr 11th 2013 at 7:30:19 PM

[up][up][up] Yes, but since first form Cell brutalised Piccolo their was no need for him to be in his second form when he got humiliated.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2473: Apr 12th 2013 at 6:31:34 AM

Well I just finished the Kai Freeza Saga.

1. Clinkenbeard is a better fit for a really young Gohan than Nadolny. She does drift into Luffy far too much at the beginning but I think it got better. Scenes like Gohan telling Chi Chi to shut up were a lot better with her.

2. The music is interesting... I'm used to Faulconer and, as sub fans love to point out, music is always playing in Funi's DBZ. The silence ddi give certain scenes more weight in Kai. I felt the Japanese score was decent, if not amazing. Certainly has nothing on the Dragon Ball OST.

3. Ayres' Freeza is amazing. Nuff said.

4. I preferred Brice Armstrong's Ginyu to the new guy. The new guy was just trying to replicate Armstrong's Ginyu.

5. Doc Morgan was a fantastic narrator.

6. The lack of filler was a real relief. Last time I tried to re-watch Goku vs. Freeza I had to skip entire episodes out of boredom. Even still, they did keep some filler, like Bulma and Ginyu and Gohan fighting final form Freeza. I wonder why.

7. Sabat's Vegeta and Piccolo are certainly a lot smoother. His Piccolo is now just his Zoro. I like it. The intense growl voice worked for King Piccolo but not for regular Piccolo.

8. Monica Rial's Bulma is really overrated. Or maybe Tiffany Vollmer's Bulma is just underrated. I don't dislike the new Bulma but I don't get the praise. Her voice sounds a bit...nasally at times?

9. Watching Kai Freeza Saga hit me over the head with the nostalgia hammer. But even still, it was only nostalgia. I have no real love for the Freeza Saga. The Cell Saga is the one I revisit the most and the one I think had a host of legitimately great new voices coming in. As such, Kai will have to impress me a fair bit to make me prefer it over Z. I already noted my disappointment with Clinkenbeard's Eighteen and I'm interested to see Vegeta's Final Flash or Gohan going SSJ 2.

EDIT:

Trunks, that heartless fiend! King Cold was defenseless and begging for his life. He vowed to change his wicked ways and offered him a whole solar system.

Why'd ya do it, Trunks?

edited 12th Apr '13 7:25:08 AM by Nikkolas

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2474: Apr 12th 2013 at 9:18:57 AM

Because King Cold would have tried to haggle it down after saying a whole solar system.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2475: Apr 12th 2013 at 1:13:55 PM

Or he would have transformed and attacked Trunks while his guard was down.


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