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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#24226: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:06:31 PM

The real world actually does have some pretty good analogies to that; you just have to take them really far. It would be like ten unarmed toddlers bum rushing John Cena (DA DADA DAAA), or a bunch of small children vs Bruce Lee.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#24227: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:12:45 PM

Speaking of which.....

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#24228: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:16:48 PM

Never not funny.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24229: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:46:14 PM

I still don't know why people say Gohan's useless. Again, he's by far the strongest character in base.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#24230: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:52:12 PM

Because, as strong as Gohan is, the plot won't let him do anything really useful.

It's about Goku and Vegeta, so they are the ones who accomplish something.

So yeah, Gohan kinda is useless. It's sad, but that's how it is.

One Strip! One Strip!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24231: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:53:43 PM

Okay, maybe he doesn't do much in the plot, but that's due to said plot, not to Gohan being weak, which he isn't.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24232: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:54:58 PM

I've never heard anyone call Gohan weak. But, whether he's weak or strong, it doesn't matter if he never does anything important or notable besides get beaten now.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24233: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:55:38 PM

I've heard people call him weak, actually.

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#24234: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:56:10 PM

If the Z-Gang brought the Dragon Balls from Present into the Bad Future of Trunks's timeline and made a wish, would they still work?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24235: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:57:16 PM

[up][up]Well then they're just wrong. But people are going to be wrong sometimes and not listen to reason. It's annoying but it's how things are.

edited 1st Sep '15 3:57:36 PM by LSBK

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24236: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:57:55 PM

We do see Gohan using his Mystic state in Super's intro...

Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#24237: Sep 1st 2015 at 3:59:07 PM

So, I'm guessing the current pecking order goes something like this.

Whis

Beerus

SSJGSSJ Goku

SSJGSSJ Vegeta

Mr.Popo

Fat Buu

Gohan

edited 1st Sep '15 3:59:31 PM by Guy01

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#24238: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:01:12 PM

I'm pretty sure Gohan is actually quite a bit stronger than Fat Buu.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#24239: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:07:44 PM

The recent Beerus fight says otherwise. [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#24240: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:11:52 PM

Mr. Buu, being Buu, is far more durable than any of the cast, but Gohan is still the strongest.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#24241: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:18:02 PM

Gohan missed the whole god power train, pushing him into irrelevancy.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#24242: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:38:13 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, like PMC said, Buu may be able take a lot of punishment, but Gohan can dish out a lot more.

Stone Wall vs Glass Cannon, if you will.

Although at this point, neither of them matter.

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24243: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:47:04 PM

The God powerup is that big? /hasn't seen the new movies yet

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#24244: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:48:17 PM

They might matter...?

  • still being ridiculously hopeful about Super*

But, yeah. The only reason why Gohan doesn't do anything is the writers don't let him. The whole "he got weaker after Cell because he didn't train" was supposed to make him more compelling as a character. Because, by the end, he was going to make up for that.

Now people use the "he got weaker because he didn't train" without any way of trying to build him up again.

edited 1st Sep '15 4:48:31 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24245: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:48:25 PM

[up][up]Well, Goku in Super Saiyan God mode forced Beerus to use 70% of his power. The most anyone else apparently could make him muster was 10%.

edited 1st Sep '15 4:49:00 PM by LSBK

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24246: Sep 1st 2015 at 4:54:44 PM

Also, you just know someone's going to beat Beerus and Whis eventually.

And hilariously, that's still less of a power uppage than first to final form Frieza.

edited 1st Sep '15 5:05:50 PM by HamburgerTime

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#24247: Sep 1st 2015 at 11:01:55 PM

DBH commercial, which shows off Ultra Rare and Team-Up cards.

Interesting thing to note from this: SSJ3 Adult Gohan's attack is an ultra powerful (and purple) Masenko, Towa's attack seems to be a combination of Time Bullet and Energy Zone, and last but not least, there's a 3-way team-attack between Great Namek King Piccolo, Ma Junior and Lord Slug.

GREAT NAMEK TRIPLE SOUMASEN!

Another thing, looking close at the cards, you can team up SSJ3 Time Patrol Trunks with the Avatar and Beerus (I don't know why) and Towa can team up with Mira and... Dabura, who doesn't have the Majin crest. I guess the commercial kinda spoiled one of the secret cards.

edited 2nd Sep '15 1:26:27 AM by Rinsankajugin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#24248: Sep 2nd 2015 at 3:20:18 AM

The power measuring systems, both for Dragon Ball Z and The Seven Deadly Sins would work much better to me if they answered one question; what unit are they starting with and measuring? What constitutes a "one"?

As I've said before, I like the idea that the Tuffles represent a 1. They invented the scouter, and were significantly smaller than regular humans plus pretty weak.

That might still seem too low but Gohan's 1 could still be stronger than a human toddler. As much as they say that level is pathetic there isn't anything that says he's only as strong as a normal human toddler would be.

@Tobias He kind of jobs a lot in Piccolo's clothes, too. Movie 9 was probably his best showing, Goku's clothes there.

Although, in Goku vs Piccolo, I'd have to say I'd prefer to see him in his own clothes, like his early Boo arc gi or his "serious" Great Saiyaman clothes. Piccolo's outfit does look good with Super Saiyan 3's hair, though.

edited 2nd Sep '15 3:22:32 AM by Saiga

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#24249: Sep 2nd 2015 at 4:17:47 AM

[up] Yeah. I prefer it when Gohan has his own outfit. It says a lot that he was wearing other people's clothes until the Buu Saga....and then he promptly went back to wearing other people's clothes.

Say what you want about him in Super, but I kinda like that he was fighting in a suit and tie.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#24250: Sep 2nd 2015 at 4:24:53 AM

Gohan fought in Super?


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