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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#24101: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:57:41 PM

So I know we've debated "canon" for DB over and over again and what it is and whether it even exists, but I have to say even by those standards the DB Wiki's policy on the subject is strange. They treat everything as equal footing, basically. Each movie has a paragraph in its article trying to work it into the manga's timeline, for instance. Some of them source it to the Daizenshuus, though, so that could be the original source for the complication for all I know.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#24102: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:57:43 PM

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Planetary overseers seem to be fairly low on the pecking order as far as the universe created by Toriyama is concerned. As for Shenron or Porunga, they seem to be spiritual beings anyway who just happened to be channeled through the dragonballs, so it would make sense that they'd know the goings-on of the Gods and whatnot.

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I figure that it's just the style of the wiki, especially given how old it is, so it's stuck, and no one bothered to comment on how odd it is.

edited 29th Aug '15 8:58:41 PM by MyssaRei

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#24103: Aug 29th 2015 at 8:59:24 PM

[up][up][up]It does seem strange. I can only assume that knowledge of such things doesn't not exceed the power of his creator.

Oh. Here's a funny thought:

Piccolo can be revived by Earth's Dragon balls, since they've never been used to bring him back.

It was a moot point back when Kami was around (since the death of either of them meant the other died too, so the .....balls became inert(evil grin), but since Dende is now Guardian of earth, they can be used on him I think.

edited 29th Aug '15 8:59:51 PM by HandsomeRob

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#24104: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:02:58 PM

The balls becoming inert because Kami and Piccolo fused back together never made sense to me. It's not like Kami died, and what he was didn't stop existing, he just didn't exist as an individual anymore.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#24105: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:09:13 PM

I think the idea is that Kami's physical body was tied to the Dragon Balls, so when that vanished by becoming one with Piccolo, it stopped the balls from working as well.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#24106: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:13:42 PM

Basically, comparing Super to Bo G...

What I prefer in Super so far: Pretty much everything that happened in Episode 6, and the fight between Vegeta and Beerus in this episode. Also, no Trunks/Mai.

What I prefer in Bo G: The 'My Bulma' scene, the 'everyone vs Beerus' segment', original Goku vs Beerus, and that scene where Mai threatens to shoot Trunks and everyone's immediate reaction is to start laughing. Oh, and tipsy Bulma.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#24107: Aug 29th 2015 at 9:13:45 PM

And those were the only balls Kami had too.tongue

~is bricked~

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#24108: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:42:44 PM

"Mai and Trunks are dating"

Wait, what? She's got to be thirty to forty years older than him.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#24109: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:53:03 PM

Its ok, she looks like a loli so that makes it ok :V

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#24110: Aug 29th 2015 at 10:53:20 PM

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It's from Battle of the Gods, and apparently got carried over to Resurrection F. However since Trunks isn't making up excuses to look cool in Super, it hasn't reared its head in the TV series. Yet.

edited 29th Aug '15 10:53:32 PM by MyssaRei

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#24111: Aug 29th 2015 at 11:12:11 PM

So I know we've debated "canon" for DB over and over again and what it is and whether it even exists, but I have to say even by those standards the DB Wiki's policy on the subject is strange. They treat everything as equal footing, basically. Each movie has a paragraph in its article trying to work it into the manga's timeline, for instance. Some of them source it to the Daizenshuus, though, so that could be the original source for the complication for all I know.

that's actually something that i've been wondering myself.

saiga has mentioned before how the idea of a canon doesn't really exist in japanese text regarding dragon ball, but how does that apply to stuff like the movies? do people think they happened or didn't happen within the anime? if they do isn't that basically the same idea regardless?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#24113: Aug 30th 2015 at 12:50:47 AM

Four months training, blah blah blah

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#24114: Aug 30th 2015 at 1:09:27 AM

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To explain away why she manages to boss base-form Goku around? XD

Seriously though, it's from the card game. Can't really take what's on it seriously.

32ndfreeze Since: Mar, 2012
#24115: Aug 30th 2015 at 1:25:10 AM

[up][up][up]Apparently raising three Saiyans is a really good form of training.

edited 30th Aug '15 1:25:30 AM by 32ndfreeze

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#24116: Aug 30th 2015 at 3:40:46 AM

Also aside from the hairstyle she doesn't seem to have aged much.

wild mass guessChi Chi is secretly a Super Sayian.

SaintDeltora The Mistress from The Land Of Corruption and Debauchery Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#24117: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:33:42 AM

Last Page: You know, ever since the huge mishandling Toei did with Saint Seiya and the CG movie I can't help but wonder WTF are they doing every time I learn something new about how they are handling their properties.

edited 30th Aug '15 5:34:07 AM by SaintDeltora

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#24118: Aug 30th 2015 at 5:53:45 AM

Toei has very little in the way of respect for its properties. It's always been this way, it's a corporation, and like quite a few other Japanese corporations, Toei does not know how to business.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#24119: Aug 30th 2015 at 7:27:51 AM

Four months training, blah blah blah

I'm pretty sure her power level would be in the quintillions, in that event.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24120: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:23:46 AM

I guess Toei isn't putting much effort into Super because it's a Dragon Ball show. A built in audience means they don't have to work all that hard to sell merchandise.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#24121: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:28:24 AM

And Pretty Cure doesn't have a built-in audience?

Cause they seem to be putting all the money into that. I'm not complaining mind you, cause it looks gorgeous, but still, how 'bout some respect to one of their oldest series?

I mean, I get that they are a business and they're about money, and I'm no Entrepeneur or anything, but I'd think that they'd know that the best way to make money to is not only care about making money. As in, give the audience something worth looking at, and show them you actually care, and they will pay you back by investing in your product.

Give a little to get a little.

If I'm full of shit here, then I give all of you permission to tell me to shut my mouth.

edited 30th Aug '15 8:48:33 AM by HandsomeRob

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#24122: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:32:55 AM

Compared to Dragon Ball? No. Besides that seems to be one of those franchises that get's a new show every so often, which means new characters to merchandise. So more effort must be put into selling the anime to people.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#24123: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:51:50 AM

Actually, from what I hear, Pretty Cure gets screwed by Toei just as much for reasons just as petty. Thing is, the people working on it seem to care a whole lot more than the people working on DBS.

Japan does not have a reputation for having non-sucky corporate structure, to say the least. While it's true that this is much more obvious in the gaming industry, it does affect publishers of other kinds as well.

edited 30th Aug '15 8:54:54 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#24124: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:54:16 AM

Oh, well that's....good to......hear?

........sad

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#24125: Aug 30th 2015 at 8:55:25 AM

Put simply: Toei is basically the animation industry's Konami.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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