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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#23901: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:44:39 PM

Not that more comfortable pillows exist. That King Vegeta's pillow, specifically, is more comfortable than the one Vegeta gave him. You're right that "comfiest pillow in the universe" is unprovable, but a comparison test of two pillows isn't hard.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:45:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23902: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:51:39 PM

Or maybe, Beerus found the pillow not comfy enough and instead of reasoning that finding the comfiest pillow in the universe, he assumed that King Vegeta found it but decided to keep it to himself! Which is coincidently what Beerus would probably do.

I mean, I don't think we are supposed to find Beerus grievances reasonable. This is the same guy who destroyed half a planet simply because he though his dish had a bit too much salt in it. He's crazy, selfish and has no regard for anything beyond his own whims.

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#23903: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:58:04 PM

[up]

See, I'm glad someone else considered something like that. I thought I was the only one.

Everyone is assuming King Vegeta is an asshole and an idiot who purposely tried to stiff someone he knows would destroy him for even the pettiest grievance, or for what he thought was a lack of respect. But we know it takes very little to make Beerus wreck your shit, so why are we taking what he said at complete face value?

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#23904: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:14:13 PM

I agree that Beerus's demands are unreasonable. There's nothing reasonable about the comfiest pillow in the universe demand.

But it's the difference between being upset because the pillow isn't comfy enough versus being upset because Vegeta's is more comfy. Both of these are unreasonable and demonstrate Beerus's deranged, childlike sense of entitlement.

Beerus doesn't need an excuse to wreck someone's shit. As noted, he destroyed half a planet because the dish had too much salt. Are we to assume he was lying about that too?

The question isn't truly about whether King Vegeta's pillow was the comfiest in the universe. It wouldn't matter one way or another if it was. The only thing in question is if he had a pillow that was comfier than the one he presented to Beerus. Beerus has no reason to lie about that or make that specific claim when he could just as easily declare the pillow he was given to not be comfy enough and destroy the planet for that reason.

edited 25th Aug '15 2:16:07 PM by TobiasDrake

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23905: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:16:41 PM

Who said anything about him needing an excuse? He can genuinely believe that he's making a reasonable request while still being a dick. Or, if he doesn't feel like it, just blow up the planet.

I don't believe anyone has said that Beerus was making up excuses for blowing up Planet Vegeta or he didn't really believe what he was saying. That doesn't make it any less ridiculous.

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#23906: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:18:50 PM

If he did believe what he was saying but was saying a falsehood, that's even more unbelievable. Think about it.

For Beerus to assume Vegeta was holding out on him for no reason, Beerus would need to be a paranoid person.

For Beerus to be a paranoid person, Beerus would need to be suspect unreasonably that people are plotting behind his back. To believe he has enemies where there are none. To be afraid.

Paranoia exists because people fear to lose what is theirs. Does Beerus strike you as someone who is afraid?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23907: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:20:49 PM

No, but he does strike me as the type to take very minor things as proof of slights against him, because he's just that self involved. King Vegeta could have had a nervous smile while giving him the pillow and I could easily see Beerus taking that to mean that he really has a much fluffier one that he's keeping for himself.

edited 25th Aug '15 2:21:08 PM by LSBK

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#23908: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:25:32 PM

Beerus doesn't lie about the pillow. He simply doesn't consider his demand as something outrageous so when he's dissatisfied with his pillow, he doesn't think that it's simply the best one King Vegeta could find, no he must have a better one hidden somewhere! It's just showing how unreasonable and self-serving his thinking is.

Why in the world King Vegeta risk Beerus wrath by hiding the best pillow? That'd require him to be suicidally stupid, and I don't think that the point of that scene was to show that Vegeta father was an idiot.

[up]Yeah, that's my stance on the subject too. Beerus is self-involved and prone to blowing things out of proportion.

edited 25th Aug '15 2:27:31 PM by Shlugo_the_great

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23909: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:26:02 PM

Or, just as likely, King Vegeta's pillow was more comfy than the one he got Beerus, but never realized it, and slaughtered an entire planet to get what turned out to be the second most comfortable one.

Or, Beerus just wanted the King's pillow, said it in a round about way, and Vegeta in his terror never got the hint and went and wreck another place for a pillow Beerus didn't want in the first place, leading Beerus to think Vegeta was holding out on him (since he would assume he was 100% clear in his orders).

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23910: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:32:46 PM

Man, I really don't like Super!Beerus.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#23911: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:35:24 PM

Xenoverse!Beerus is Best!Beerus. He just does not give a single fuck throughout all the story and seems to be perfectly willing, and able, to destroy the Time Nest just to wreck Demigra's shit.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23912: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:37:55 PM

Indeed.

Bored Beerus is much better than For the Evulz Beerus.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#23913: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:47:36 PM

Also, he teaches you how to fingerflick people. I don't care if Headshot is a terrible move, I still love it.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23914: Aug 25th 2015 at 2:51:11 PM

I need to go back and rewatch BOG to get that bad taste of Super!Beerus out of my head.

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#23915: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:00:33 PM

The one thing I am liking about Super!Beerus is his whole "The one thing I can't stand is when people don't give me respect" thing. That's part of the reason why he gets so angry at King Vegeta for the pillow business. He thinks he's not getting respected.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#23916: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:14:47 PM

The two things that make Xenoverse!Beerus the best are his idle animations (Meow meow!) and at the end of the BoG's segment where Whis gets an unconscious Goku out of the way and Beerus then tosses his attack at Demigra in an epic "FUCK YOU".

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#23917: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:16:52 PM

I like to think that inside his mind, he went "Well, gee, when you put it like that FUCK YOU!" in Doug Walker's Conan voice.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23918: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:17:10 PM

By the way, can I say that despite being somewhat disappointed at Gohan being shortchanged, I do like how Buu was defeated? When you think about it, it was everyone's victory. The people of Earth's energy, Mr. Satan's charisma, King Kai's telepathy, the Namekians' Dragon Balls, and Vegeta's acting as a distraction were all needed for the win.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23919: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:18:50 PM

Yes, I agree with that.

It makes it my favorite fight in the series, because everyone was involved in helping take down the villain.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23920: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:20:38 PM

Plus, when you get down to it, just Gohan being alive means they could be as irresponsible as they wanted. Whether or not the Spirit Bomb worked didn't matter after reviving everyone because they could still just teleport Gohan there to finish the job.

edited 25th Aug '15 3:34:04 PM by LSBK

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#23921: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:26:46 PM

The Spirit Bomb was probably the best way to end off the series. Hence why it came back in GT. And it'll probably come back in the final arc of Super. Whenever that happens.

I still find it a little cheesy, but it was cool.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#23922: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:27:24 PM

It would've literally taken Goku two seconds to teleport Gohan over, and Gohan was at full strength since he'd just been revived, so he would've been able to wipe the floor with Kid Buu and probably obliterate him with a single Kamehameha.

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#23923: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:36:41 PM

Goku: "Grabbin' my son." *teleports* "Takin' my son." *teleports* "Here's my son."

Gohan: "KAMEHAMEHA!"

Pure Buu: *is vaporized*

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#23924: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:44:42 PM

It would be anti-climatic but I admit I do like that idea.

It has a simple but smart and efficient feel I really like.

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#23925: Aug 25th 2015 at 3:50:09 PM

Gohan would do something stupid and get absorbed again. Better not risk that.


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