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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23876: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:13:23 AM

[up] Even if we accept that, it'll just trigger basically the same complaint session.

Instead, let's just accept that it's GT and fuck GT. There were, like, three or four good things in GT. Fuck everything else.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23877: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:14:08 AM

I've never complained about it, I just thought the reasons for it were funny.

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#23878: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:20:42 AM

Misogyny and whatnot, moving on.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23879: Aug 25th 2015 at 10:54:08 AM

I could do the joke about how there are only like four or fives topics to talk about but it's been done.

This series has been going on for a long time and is only just recently getting fresh material. It's just really hard to talk about things that haven't been talked to death already.

That people still enjoy talking about them is a testament to the series, I think.

edited 25th Aug '15 11:56:28 AM by LSBK

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23880: Aug 25th 2015 at 11:42:14 AM

Okay, show of hands, does anyone here really enjoy arguing about the same four or five topics ad infinitum?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23881: Aug 25th 2015 at 11:53:21 AM

No. Discussions tend to get stale when you know the opinions of the other party by heart. I just stay out of rehashed topics.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23882: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:14:55 PM

I myself have started some of those topics that end up kicking dead horses.

I'd like to come up with new stuff, but it's damned hard truthfully. Any idea you could think of ultimately comes back to the same problems (Power Levels and the like) which kinda kills any theorizing you could make.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23883: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:33:48 PM

I may be committing a heresy here but we could always talk about what we like about the series for a change.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23885: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:36:21 PM

Vegitto running with Super Buu's death ball and punting it like a football.

It was awesome.

That and the Solar Flare. Best damned technique in the series.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#23886: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:43:54 PM

I like the foreheads of Akira's art.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23887: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:46:10 PM

Gohan's Great Saiyaman costume. The original version with the Helmet.

Especially since the watch he uses to put it on probably uses the same tech that Capsules use.

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#23888: Aug 25th 2015 at 12:55:12 PM

Watched Super 6 and 7.

  • Disappointed that Vegeta's Bingo song isn't in this version.
  • Beerus is being super-merciful. Seriously, despite intending to destroy the planet, he's not killing anyone. It is within his power to wipe out this entire ship with a stray thought, but he's limiting himself to only dealing enough damage to remove his adversary from the fight in each engagement. Even Bulma got a survivable cherry tap; that is a truly impressive amount of self-control from someone in a frothing rage. This is weird and sort of OOC for Beerus to care so much about sparing the lives of people he's about to murder anyway.
  • Too much overemphasis on the key points from Battle of Gods. Moments like Buu eating the puddings or Beerus slapping Bulma are lingered on and drawn out needlessly. Characters react for what feels like minutes at a time, especially Vegeta's Narm-filled "NOOOOOOOOOT MMMMMMMYYYYYYYY BUUUUUUULLLMMMMMAAAAAAA!!!" which felt like it went on for an entire episode.
  • As Saiga has previously complimented, 18 engages Beerus while Krillin stays back to protect Marron. That's awesome. It's how things should be. Glaring at you, ROF.
  • Yamcha got too much crap in this thread for slapping Beerus on the back. He had no idea what he was dealing with, and I kind of get the impression Beerus approved a bit. He has a lot of moments that indicate he kind of wants to be challenged or at least treated as an equal. Particularly, he is absolutely disgusted with Vegeta's groveling, at one part dismissively remarking that the Saiyans have become cowards now.
  • That nameless chef making various delicious meals for Whis and thus delaying the annihilation of the planet is the newest contender for Earth's Greatest Champion. Watch out, Mr. Satan, Nameless Chef has got your number.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23889: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:06:49 PM

Ya know that Beerus did the whole "not killing anyone attacking him despite going to destroy the planet" thing in BoG, right? He's a cat. His are truly fickle whims that us mere humans cannot hope to understand.

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#23890: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:07:24 PM

Yeah, but it was less noticeable because the fight was much shorter.

Here, he has three separate fights with Majin Buu and still never resorts to lethal force.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:07:48 PM by TobiasDrake

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23891: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:09:28 PM

I'm just going to blame that on Super dragging everything out.

Really, from what I'm hearing, once this is over, people are likely to treat BoG as the definitive version of those events.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23892: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:11:54 PM

Kind of funny considering people say he's a bigger dick in Super.

Also, him hating grovellers might explain why he's trolling Vegeta so much harder too.

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#23893: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:17:27 PM

Yeah. He seemed to genuinely enjoy Goku's request to fight him. He was never in any danger but he had a lot of fun with it. Drawing that scene out made perfect sense and helped build Beerus's character.

The impression I get is that he enjoyed meeting Goku quite a bit and was expecting something similar from Vegeta. Then he got to Earth and Vegeta dropped to his knees and was all, "Great Beerus, we grovel before you and offer awesome foods and stuff, anything to make you satisfied, do you need me to be your footstool?" and Beerus was all, "Really? We're doing this again? I can have helpless peons swearing fealty and tending to me hand and foot anywhere in the universe. I thought you were better than that."

In general, I feel like Beerus has Goku's happy-go-lucky attitude mixed with Frieza's entitlement. He has a fun-loving personality and loves life, but he's also not accustomed to being denied. He's perfectly content to hang out and be one of the guys so long as nobody tells him he can't have something he wants to have.

So there's a delicate balancing act where he gets offended if you treat him like an icon instead of a person, but he also gets offended if you don't immediately respect his wishes and opinions when he expresses them.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:21:21 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23894: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:21:08 PM

Really? That's some creative interpretation seeing as Beerus himself says that the thing he hates the most is people not showing him proper respect and how he beat up Vegeta senior for failing to accommodate his ridiculous demand.

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#23895: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:23:14 PM

[up]Considering how aware of Freeza's empire Beerus was, he probably knew Vegeta's real personality. tongue

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23896: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:23:18 PM

Super's take on the Battle of Gods movie makes me curious to see how bad they make Fukkatsu no Frieza look.

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#23897: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:23:50 PM

He also accused Vegeta Senior of keeping the comfiest pillow for himself and giving Beerus the second-comfiest instead. King Vegeta didn't just fail to comply with the order he was given, he actually attempted to betray Beerus over the ridiculous demand.

He wasn't upset that his pillow wasn't comfy enough, he was upset that Vegeta had deliberately attempted to satisfy him with second-best. As though King Vegeta was better than him.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:26:05 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23898: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:29:09 PM

What I took from it was not that King Vegeta found the comfiest pillow in the universe on short notice but decided not to give it to the God of Destruction, but that Beerus is bonkers and will fly into irrational rage if his denied. It didn't occur to him that his demand was absurd, he just assumed that King Vegeta was sneak dissing him for some reason.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:30:43 PM by Shlugo_the_great

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#23899: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:41:27 PM

"You kept the comfiest pillow for yourself and gave me the second-comfiest," is an awfully specific accusation if Vegeta has simply failed to acquiesce to Beerus's demand. He is, at once, acknowledging that this pillow is the second-comfiest pillow in the entire universe and also that there is an even comfier one that exists in Vegeta's bedchamber, that he will go retrieve when he is done here. It means Vegeta has presented him a pillow, and the claim that Vegeta's pillow is comfier than the one he presented to Beerus is provable.

Beerus is the God of Destruction. If he just wanted to be a raging asshole, he wouldn't need an excuse. Similarly, if was merely upset at being denied, Planet Vegeta would not have continued to exist. Something sated Beerus's rage that day, and the only options we know of are either a) Prince Vegeta challenging him, or b) Beerus retrieving the comfiest pillow in the universe from King Vegeta's bedchamber and sparing the planet because the King at least did as he was told, even if he did try to be sneaky about it.

edited 25th Aug '15 1:43:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23900: Aug 25th 2015 at 1:43:35 PM

Most comfortable pillow in the universe sounds inherently unprovable to me.

Even if King Vegeta did try and trick him, saying he did so on the basis that Beerus thinks that more comfortable pillows exist sounds ridiculous. Which is probably the point.


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