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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23827: Aug 24th 2015 at 2:32:30 PM

A random thought. So Goten is so powerful because he was conceived when Goku was a Full Power Super Saiyan, right? This implies two things:

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#23828: Aug 24th 2015 at 2:50:58 PM

I hate the "Super Saiyan sperm theory". It makes no sense. Vegeta wasn't even a Super Saiyan when he conceived Trunks! That didn't stop it from being easy for him to transform.

That's the theory disproven right there.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#23829: Aug 24th 2015 at 2:52:50 PM

It does, however, take an entire year longer for Trunks to do so... Goten and Trunks transform at around the same time, IINM, and Goten is, I think, a little over a year younger than Trunks.

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#23830: Aug 24th 2015 at 2:57:04 PM

So, I've been looking for a place to watch Dragon Ball (and eventually Z and Super). Such is not as easy as it may seem, however, as it's not on Netflix and Hulu only allows non-payers to access the subtitled versions. Not even Crunchyroll has it, for whatever reason. A few episodes can be found on Youtube, admittedly, but taking the patchwork episodes from various users is annoying as well as slightly guilt-inducing. I could go onto one of the many sites that put a bunch of the episodes up, but viruses and malware scare me off of those as well as the aforementioned guilt. I decided to look at the prices for purchasing the DV Ds, and damn it those things are expensive-like, REALLY expensive.

Point is, are there any sites that are safe from viruses, provide the episodes in dubbed form, relatively inexpensive, and (preferably) legal? I'll put up with plenty of ads as long as the revenue is going where it's supposed to.

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#23831: Aug 24th 2015 at 2:57:23 PM

That's true, but the real important thing about Goten and Trunks is both of them could go Super Saiyan without much training, and they don't have to struggle to control it. That applies to both of them. The reason they're prodigies isn't because they transform when they're young, it's because of how easy it is for them by comparison.

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#23832: Aug 24th 2015 at 3:05:17 PM

Nobody said anything about them being good at being Super Saiyans, though. I very much doubt either of them is getting anywhere near as much out of the Super Saiyan as Goku, Vegeta and Future Trunks could due to their training to maximize its use. Heck, even Gohan probably remembers how to not suck at being a Super Saiyan, given how he remains weak enough to not instantly splatter everyone even when he goes Super Saiyan in his first crime fighting appearance.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23833: Aug 24th 2015 at 3:24:52 PM

I think when Trunks and Vegeta were training together under 500x gravity Trunks had to go SS to be able to stand it and Vegeta didn't. So just because he gets that big multiplier doesn't mean he's actually on par with adults who can do the same thing.

edited 24th Aug '15 3:25:13 PM by Arha

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#23834: Aug 24th 2015 at 3:26:15 PM

I could go onto one of the many sites that put a bunch of the episodes up, but viruses and malware scare me off of those as well as the aforementioned guilt.

is this really that much of an issue if you have a competent anti-virus/malware software?

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#23835: Aug 24th 2015 at 3:33:41 PM

[up][up]Oh, for sure.

Super Saiyan is a multiplier, after all.

They're both very, very young and have never had to deal with the kind of shit Gohan did at their age, so it's normal for them to not be immensely broken despite their massive birth power.

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#23836: Aug 24th 2015 at 3:45:40 PM

[up][up]

Maybe not, but... y'know. Rather not get a virus if I can help it.

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#23837: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:29:37 PM

I hate the "Super Saiyan sperm theory". It makes no sense. Vegeta wasn't even a Super Saiyan when he conceived Trunks! That didn't stop it from being easy for him to transform.

That's the theory disproven right there.

He might have been. Trunks was conceived during the three year timeskip. Vegeta became a Super Saiyan during the same timeskip. We have no knowledge of what order these two events occurred in.

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#23838: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:36:20 PM

I fully believe with absolute conviction than Vegeta was not a Super Saiyan when Trunks was conceived but that his sperm most certainly achieved the transformation in time.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23839: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:37:34 PM

Technically by real-world genetics humans and Saiyans shouldn't be compatible at all, given they're from different planets and presumably have no shared evolutionary history.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23840: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:38:16 PM

wild mass guessEven Vegeta's sperm went Super Saiyan before he didwild mass guess

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#23841: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:38:33 PM

[up][up] Science.

Heretic.

Burn.

edited 24th Aug '15 5:38:40 PM by Zelenal

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#23842: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:39:54 PM

Hey, don't knock science. It gave us some great things, like time travel, vehicles and houses that can fit into a capsule, and approximately three out of twenty androids.

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#23843: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:40:46 PM

That is not science, that is witchcraft and witchcraft is acceptable.

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#23844: Aug 24th 2015 at 5:41:52 PM

Three out of twenty androids? B-But what about the other three that didn't explode or become non-canon?

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#23845: Aug 24th 2015 at 6:03:17 PM

What would Golden Cooler, Cold, Kuriza and Chilled look like?

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#23846: Aug 24th 2015 at 6:03:34 PM

Maybe Vegeta was already powerful enough to become a Super Saiyan, and just didn't have an emotional trigger for the transformation since the time he achieved the required powerlevel.

Or maybe he already was a Super Saiyan, but he was still weaker than Goku, and decided not to reveal he was a Super Saiyan until he was sure he could take Goku on a fight.

edited 24th Aug '15 6:04:35 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#23847: Aug 24th 2015 at 6:06:26 PM

He probably just wanted to unveil it at the Android battle everyone was training for. Vegeta's a glory hound. He didn't want his glorious moment where everyone discovers he's a Super Saiyan to be ruined by Bulma telling everyone ahead of time.

He did the same thing with Cell. He came out of the RoSaT stronger but didn't promptly go, "Hey, everybody, check out my new Super Vegeta form, it's so cool." He wanted to reveal it by annihilating Cell.

edited 24th Aug '15 6:07:34 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23848: Aug 24th 2015 at 7:07:13 PM

What would Golden Cooler, Cold, Kuriza and Chilled look like?

Everybody's Super Sonic racing, got to get your feet right off the ground!

Cooler trained and all he managed was a sh'tty fifth armored form that couldn't even touch a Super Saiyan. Come to think of it, Frieza's 100 percent could at least budge a Super Saiyan. Cooler was the lamer of the two.

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edited 24th Aug '15 7:08:20 PM by Soble

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#23849: Aug 24th 2015 at 7:09:34 PM

(100% Freeza was never a threat to Super Saiyan Goku tho)

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#23850: Aug 24th 2015 at 7:09:35 PM

I like to imagine that Cooler's fifth form isn't really a natural biological form so much as it is a technology-enhanced form. Hence the shoulder things and the mask.

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