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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#23526: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:35:25 AM

I can destroy you all by continuing to drag it out until you all get sick of it and leave in disgust.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23527: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:38:20 AM

I can destroy you all by not being sick of the gag and thus continuing to drag it out.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23528: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:38:25 AM

In all seriousness though we should stop. Lets destroy this joke.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23529: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:42:40 AM

~Pulls a knife~

I got it.

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#23530: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:49:21 AM

Anyways, what was our topic?

Oh, right. Yu Yu Hakusho.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23531: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:50:31 AM

It was pretty good from what I saw of it. Much better than whatever this "Dragon's Balls" or whatever it's called is from what I've seen.

edited 21st Aug '15 9:51:00 AM by LSBK

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23532: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:52:36 AM

I liked it myself. I've seen a bit of the dub and thought that was good too.

I'm not sure what the overall opinion on it is, but Yusuke's 'hold your frigging breath! line still cracks me up.

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zsmg Since: Jul, 2011
#23533: Aug 21st 2015 at 10:35:03 AM

I can destroy you all... aww I'm too late. sad

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#23535: Aug 21st 2015 at 11:18:11 AM

I just remember loving Yususke's Shotgun and Kuwabara being a beast.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23536: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:20:26 PM

......Right, you're all gonna kill me, but I'm curious enough to ask:

We know that if you're power level is lower than the guy your fighting, you simply don't stand a chance, no matter what fancy techniques you have.

Piccollo was 3500 and Nappa was 4000, while there was a 30 million difference between Frieza and Super Saiyan Goku.

So my question is, how low can the difference be between a fighter being completely outmatched, and still having a chance, but it being an up-hill battle?

It's something I'm really wondering about now, since equal fights in DBZ aren't really that common. Maybe in Dragon Ball, but definitely not Dragon Ball Z.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23537: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:21:58 PM

If the gap is small enough, it would come down to skill. That's why Nappa could keep up with Goku.

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#23538: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:22:14 PM

Given the low scale of Dragon Ball, the gap is likely pretty small. I mean, Piccolo was only about 500 weaker than Nappa and couldn't win even with help.

[up] No he couldn't.

edited 21st Aug '15 12:24:02 PM by Zelenal

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#23539: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:25:04 PM

People keep calling him the "farmer with a shotgun" but I thought it looked more like a rifle.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23540: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:25:56 PM

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Yeah. Goku was still holding back by not using the Kaiouken, so he was still stronger..... right?

Anyway, yeah, the gap seems pretty small.

I think the one time where the gap was small enough was Super Saiyan 3 Goku vs Pure Buu. Goku didn't lose because he was weaker, but because the power drain of three meant he couldn't keep up that pace.

edited 21st Aug '15 12:26:14 PM by HandsomeRob

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23541: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:47:16 PM

By the way, why didn't Vegeta's tail grow back? I think I remember him saying that it would either before he got to Namek or right after.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23542: Aug 21st 2015 at 12:48:45 PM

Maybe he lost it again off-panel?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#23543: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:02:48 PM

Vegeta is very frequently wrong about a lot of things.

Adult Saiyans' tails don't seem to grow back like younger saiyans' do.

Here's a fun bit: Yes, Piccolo was only 500 below Nappa.

Someone said that with a gap that's small, it comes down to skill... and this holds true for this fight.

Nappa is considerably more skilled than Piccolo is. Nappa isn't just a brute, he actually manages to bridge a much larger gap between himself and Goku by simply fighting calmly and using the full extent of his skills. Nappa is more skilled than Goku and the margin between them is so large that despite being twice as powerful, Goku was not completely steamrolling Nappa with no effort whatsoever.

To put it simply: Nappa was actually Weak, but Skilled.

edited 21st Aug '15 1:05:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#23544: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:22:42 PM

No he isn't. Nappa is the opposite of skilled, he's a bumbling fool who had way more problems with Z fighters than he should simply because his incompetence allowed them to land one free shot after another. Hell, if it wasn't for Vegeta, Krillin would have actually killed him with Kiezan then and there. If it wasn't for Gohan breaking under the pressure he would have been beaten even earlier, and Tenshinhan's one handed Kiaho almost got him too.

All Nappa really had going for him was his power level and his freaky toughnesses. He wasn't a skilled fighter, he was a brute.

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#23545: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:23:47 PM

Should tell the game developers that, then.

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Cag Since: Sep, 2010
#23546: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:37:46 PM

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I think you give too much credit to the Weekly Jump/Daizenshuu 7 power levels. They have Raditz at 1500, which doesn't make sense considering how much he was freaking out over Piccolo's 1330 and Gohan's 1307.

And even if they are true, the 3500 probably represents Piccolo's maximum power level, which he can't maintain for long(like it has Gohan at 2800, the power he had when he charged his Masenko after Piccolo's death), while Nappa's power level is constant.

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#23547: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:37:50 PM

Pfft, hah. That's hilarious.

Oh.

Wait.

You're serious.

Allow me to laugh even harder.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23548: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:40:08 PM

Nappa sure gets knocked around a lot and makes a lot of basic mistakes for someone supposedly so skilled.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23549: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:49:39 PM

Nappa is really skilled when it comes to getting punched in the face and hit with lasers.

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#23550: Aug 21st 2015 at 1:58:34 PM

And failing to do a Shoop da Whoop.

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