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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#23501: Aug 21st 2015 at 3:28:23 AM

Not being shitty fanfic doesn't say much for it. And when you have the anime, I would say it is wasted time because the manga really doesn't have much over it except for some of the earlier stories that were excised.

And that's really not very caustic at all.

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#23502: Aug 21st 2015 at 3:28:50 AM

[up][up][up] I was just making a reference to one of TFS's videos.

Besides, I'm too busy watching Hokuto no Ken, Hellsing Ultimate Abridged, and Tokuso Sentai Dekaranger.

edited 21st Aug '15 3:29:52 AM by Zelenal

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#23503: Aug 21st 2015 at 3:30:11 AM

Oh, I know the reference. But that reference stems from a pretty widely held belief that YYH just copied DB (and that Bleach just copied YYH) and due to its popularity I couldn't tell if you bought into it or not.

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#23504: Aug 21st 2015 at 3:38:19 AM

I didn't know if it was true or not nor did I terribly care. Caring about an anime ripping off Dragon Ball would be like caring about a fantasy working ripping of The Lord of the Rings or a sci-fi work ripping off Star Wars and/or Star Trek.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23505: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:15:36 AM

Well, a lot of people do care about those things. A lot of people don't differentiate between being inspired by or taking general concepts from something and just ripping it off.

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#23506: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:28:03 AM

I know. I'm just not one of them. I only care when the work is bad or when it borderlines plagiarism.

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#23507: Aug 21st 2015 at 7:46:17 AM

As far as bad anime dads, none can surpass Ging Freecs, In my opinion. Best dad is Asura

Also, [up]I would recommend Ushio And Tora and it's currently airing anime. It's very nostalgic.

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#23508: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:12:45 AM

My memories of Yu Yu Hakusho are scarce, I only remember the Dark Tournament and parts of the Chapter Black...then it switched to 5am and I stopped caring aside from catching the final episode one morning by chance.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23509: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:20:12 AM

My like of Yu Yu Hakusho comes from the Funidub. I tried the manga a few years ago and while I liked the early stories I prefer the anime's Adaptation Expansion over it. The Three Kings Saga was definitely the low point of the series in general but I wouldn't call everything about it bad.

edited 21st Aug '15 8:20:26 AM by VeryMelon

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#23510: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:31:26 AM

[up][up][up] That sounds quite a bit like InuYasha.

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#23511: Aug 21st 2015 at 8:57:11 AM

Looking back, it seems that Goku only started deciding not to kill specific enemies only after his training with Kami.

It's possible that it's because he gained enough control to beat enemies without killing them, and realized he could get better fights by sparing good rivals. If they were good enough to survive his hits, they could train up, grow stronger and give him a better fight down the line.

So Kid Goku, despite being a killer, was arguably a better hero than his adult self. How ironic.

Even that was just a phrase. The first instance of Goku sparing a defeated foe was when he actually stopped God from killing Piccolo, which kind of puts a roadblock in front of the logic train that it was God's encouragement that made him that way.

The last time he ever did it was Frieza, who violently rejected Goku's attempts attempts to spare his life twice, then came back again for revenge. Piccolo and Vegeta swore bloody vengeance but then became allies instead, but Frieza actually did it. He was so offensive and malevolent that he broke Goku's mercy.

Goku found his middle ground with Buu. "I'm totally going to f*cking kill you, you awful monster. But I also still want to fight you again in the future. Reincarnate with all your power intact but as less of an atrocious shithead so I can do that."

Wasn't YYH's ending rushed?

It was certainly abrupt and tried overly hard for a happy ending it really didn't deserve between two characters with no possible chance at a working romance. The Canon Couple is going to crash and burn within a year.

Also, I never said that character flaws make a character interesting, although they help; Goku is a more interesting protagonist than Yusuke because Yusuke is the most boring and unchanging character in all of shounen! He grows up from a punk to...slightly less of a punk.

I actually love Yusuke, but still agree that this is completely true. One of the ways the show Jumped the Shark in the Sensui Saga was attempting to reclassify Yusuke as a traditional hero by way of heavily derailing Genkai into also being one.

GENKAI: I saved this villain's life because the lethal blow Yusuke delivered to him would have haunted him from the horror of taking a life!

Because this is totally the first time in the entire series Yusuke has ever killed a person, and the overwhelming guilt would surely break him.

Then the end of that arc had him go Full Goku. After turning into a Super Saiyan to defeat Perfect Sensui, Yusuke casts off both the show's Spirit Detective premise and any ounce of concern for human life he ever had so that he can avenge the fact that Raizen stole a fight from him by fighting him. Yusuke's role in the final arc was just looking for stronger foes to fight for fighting's sake.

The show lost its identity after the Dark Tournament and spent the last two arcs trying to reinvent itself as a different shonen.

Also, I don't think Buu would have really caused that much of a change in Yenma's workload; the dude basically deals with the souls of the people who die, throughout the entire universe, the guy is possibly dealing with trillions upon trillions of souls every day.

He would if he rocketed around blowing up the entire universe. Cell was powerful enough to supernova a solar system. Buu could probably blow up entire galaxies at a time, and he can survive in vacuum. Majin Buu was a serious threat to the continued existence of the entire universe. Then, when he got bored with that, he'd go back to killing gods.

edited 21st Aug '15 9:01:21 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23512: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:06:30 AM

Also Dragon Ball and Yu Yu Hakusho were published simultaneously for much of YYH's run. So it's not exactly fair to suggest it's just Dragon Ball rehashed, despite some things being extremely similar it's unlikely Yu Yu Hakusho was always ripping off Dragon Ball. For example, Gohan vs Cell and Yusuke vs 100% Toguro have almost the exact same beginning - hero has untapped potential, but won't fight back, villain is disappointed because they want a good fight so they try and draw it out by first torturing the hero and then going after others - but they were published around the same time and authors have to create their chapters ~2 chapters in advance without seeing each others' works so it's unlikely either deliberately took the idea from the other.

Toguro was Frieza.

  • Toguro: Hmm, I think 40% of my power will work for this. For you, 60%. Muwahaha, nobody's ever pushed me to 80% before. This is my 100% full power! 120%, MOTHERF*CKER!!!"
  • Yusuke: That's not how math works!
  • Toguro: THEY'LL FIX IT IN THE DUUUUUUUUUUB!

edited 21st Aug '15 9:07:42 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23513: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:09:11 AM

Oh, yeah, I remember that. He said he went to 100% for a bit but, when it came time for the big clash, he said he was still holding back and was only at 85%. In the original he said he was going to 120%?

edited 21st Aug '15 9:12:46 AM by LSBK

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#23514: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:11:25 AM

Yes.

I headcanon that, because he got his powerset from a magical wish to be the most powerful thing ever, 100% isn't truly his full strength but the most he's ever used in his life. Yusuke pushed him beyond the limits of what he's comfortable with using. He might have even been able to get stronger, but the level of power he was at deformed his body extensively and was vaporizing people just from being in his near proximity, so god knows what 140% or 160% might have done to him.

edited 21st Aug '15 9:14:01 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23515: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:17:11 AM

You guys may not realize it but I'm only using 348.92 1/69th% of my power right now.

That's right, I've got a decimal and a fraction, motherfucker.

edited 21st Aug '15 9:20:28 AM by Zelenal

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#23516: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:18:57 AM

Maybe 100% is just what he can use safely. I don't remember that fight very well.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23517: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:28:11 AM

I'm always using only .00000000001% of my full power. Even when I'm serious.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23518: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:30:08 AM

I'm not using any power at all, and I can still destroy all of you by blinking.

Correction. By thinking about blinking.

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#23519: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:30:47 AM

Ah, but I can destroy you all by blinking about thinking.

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#23520: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:31:32 AM

I can destroy you all with twinking about blinking, thinking that something is stinking while your mind is winking.

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#23521: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:32:37 AM

I can destroy you all by hitting.

I don't need to, mind you, but it's more fun that way. If I wanted to blink, I'd stay at home.

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#23522: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:33:15 AM

I can destroy you by letting my heart beat and my blood flow.

Can you beat that?

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#23523: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:33:38 AM

I can destroy you all, by destroying the me that will save you all.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#23524: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:34:06 AM

I destroyed you by attacking the particular atom that would eventually lead to your creation at the very nanosecond the Big Bang happened, and I did it without destroying anything else.

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#23525: Aug 21st 2015 at 9:35:03 AM

I can destroy you all by telling you this gag has been dragged out for too long and is no longer funny.


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