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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#23376: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:25:33 PM

This race stuff is derailing the thread. Can we go back to talking about the blond-haired, blue-eyed supermen who make everyone around them irrelevant?

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23377: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:26:44 PM

[up][up][up] ...I've mentioned it before.

In conversation with you, even.

Unless there's another Handsome Rob in this hellhole.

...I hope not. Just one is bad enough.

[up] ...I do think the Fusion Reborn joke was kinda funny.

edited 20th Aug '15 4:27:49 PM by unnoun

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#23378: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:29:09 PM

Blue eye, blond hair, super strength... I should be recruiting them." [lol]

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23379: Aug 20th 2015 at 4:32:08 PM

I wonder if that guy was the one who wished for a One World Government?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23380: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:08:07 PM

Unless there's another Handsome Rob in this hellhole. ...I hope not. Just one is bad enough.

Now that's just.....

No. No, I see your point. That's a fair assessment.

Consider it dropped.

As for the armour thing.....it wouldn't work. Saiyans too stronk.

Shit. Damned Power level inflation.

Also, now they are the blue haired guys who do everything. Gotta remember that.tongue

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23381: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:09:16 PM

I would like some armor that would bring the humans up to around Piccolo's level.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23382: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:13:21 PM

I figure it could happen, between the Saiyan armour that Bulma replicated, and her and her father working together to continue more work on Android technology (from what little they gleaned from studying 16) and maybe making Exoskeletons out of that.

Hell, if they found some of what was left of 19, they could maybe figure out the energy draining trick to absorb attacks too strong for them to take one normally.

Unfortunately, that won't happen, for reason many already brought up (mostly that Bulma has little interest in doing such things).

Plus, Toriyama hasn't thought of it, so it's never gonna be a thing, so I should just stop whining about it I suppose.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23383: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:15:01 PM

Super's initial order was 100 episodes IIRC, and the Battle of Gods adaptation looks to be only around a tenth of that. They could totally squeeze stuff like that in there.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23384: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:17:01 PM

If they did, the guys in the armour would lose in seconds, no matter what fancy tech they have in there.

I mean, I could think of a lot of things Bulma might come up with to give them a chance, but it wouldn't matter, cause any enemy they could fight would be out of their league, and if they can beat them, so can Goku and Vegeta, so as many have pointed out, there's no point at all.

I now fully acknowledge that it's the realm of fan fiction (hopefully good fan fiction) but still.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#23385: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:25:27 PM

Jynx was actually designed as a caricature of Ganguro Girls and not black people. That's why it's blond, since the Ganguro sterotype has bleached hair.

Mr. Popo is a Djinn, which IINM are sometimes depicted as having pitch black skin.

And as for the overly large pink lips...

Here's some fun: What are lips usually drawn as?

Black lines.

You can imagine how much that would contrast on the pitch black skin both characters sport, right?

The overly large pink lips are merely there so that you can actually see their mouths. It does look like the Blackface caricature, but that's purely coincidental.

Saying that they're Blackface caricatures is ridiculous. Japan doesn't have the Blackface caricature. They don't have black people to caricaturize with it.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:26:29 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#23386: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:25:35 PM

[up][up] The reason for it being stupid in canon would make it just as stupid in fanfiction.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:26:59 PM by Zelenal

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23387: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:27:46 PM

[up]

Don't wreck my dreams damn you.....

.....shit. you're right.

I mean, maybe it could have worked if the power levels didn't get so high, but once they became planet busters, it was just impossible. There's no armour in the world that could compensate for that.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23388: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:27:47 PM

As with the discussion about Krillin's PL, the humans are already above the majority of superpowered threats in the universe. A villain greater than Krillin's 75,000 (well above four-fifths of the Ginyus, remember) would be the exception, not the rule.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#23389: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:28:57 PM

Japan doesn't have the Blackface caricature. They don't have black people to caricaturize with it.

They do, however, have Western media, and have since WWII.

They import lots of stuff from other cultures.

Japan has a thing with Blackface.

EDIT: Hell, from what I've read the Ganguro thing is, in fact, partially related to Japanese imports of Western media containing black people.

The native myths and stories probably have to do with contact with Melanesian people in the nearby island chains.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:34:54 PM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23390: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:29:06 PM

The funny thing is, there seem to be plenty of those types of dudes.

Then again, most of them are either from non canon movies, GT, or are Beerus and Whis.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23391: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:30:10 PM

I'd like to point out that Krillin's likely above 75,000. Probably not that much higher but I'd put at around 100,000 by the end of the Cell Saga just because it sounds about right.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23392: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:31:35 PM

And as someone pointed out previously, interfering in someone else's fight is something of a taboo in shonen. If a Krillin got to the bad guy first and was about even with them, Goku probably wouldn't even want to interfere.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23393: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:32:39 PM

Do you think his 3 years of training could have boosted him that much?

Man, really thinking about it, all those times when Krillin got pwned in movies, I realize now that he should have actually been kicking ass, since he's likely one of the strongest fighters in the universe.

But since the movies follow the same formula of this villain is stronger than the guy who came before, he just gets stomped. It's kinda unfair really.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:32:50 PM by HandsomeRob

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#23394: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:35:37 PM

I honestly don't care about the humans or Piccolo being able to do anything because it's been so long since they could it would just seemed forced.

Maybe if King Kai's training or their training to fight the androids were actually shown to bear fruit I could buy it, but we weren't shown that, just let them all live their lives, and let the characters who have always been able to consistently do things continue to do things.

Far better chance of things not turning to shit that way.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#23395: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:37:02 PM

.....

Agreed. It's sad to say so, but very much agreed.

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#23396: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:41:24 PM

We only see events that are noteworthy.

The concept of a villain is already a rare enough principle. It takes both the means to be a threat to the protagonist's goals and a motive that would place them in opposition to him or her. As the protagonists grow more powerful, the pool of people capable of fulfilling this role diminishes. There aren't billions of planet-busters patrolling the universe looking for a world to smash.

Krillin isn't a supernatural monster hunter or interdimensional space cop or time correction officer or something. The overwhelming majority of battles Krillin will fight for the remaining years of his life will be human criminals and the like. There's a decent chance he will never fire a Kamehameha at a hostile target again because he's so powerful he may never have to.

So we don't see that time Krillin stopped a bank robbery single-handedly because all those guys combined couldn't touch him, or that time Yamcha tried to impress a girl by bench-pressing a house, or that time Tien and Chiaotzu got mugged and broke out into hysterical laughter because they were in no danger at all, etc.

edited 20th Aug '15 5:46:54 PM by TobiasDrake

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#23397: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:52:02 PM

Krillin foiling a bank robbery would be kinda funny since they'd just blink and all of the crooks would be instantly unconscious and tied up.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#23398: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:55:01 PM

[up][up] But, again, why can't Krillin get his own episode where he's the one who has to deal with the crisis because it's in his ballpark?

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23399: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:56:06 PM

Because he's not a member of the one-and-a-half useful people in the show.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#23400: Aug 20th 2015 at 5:56:40 PM

It'll be like that episode of Justice League Unlimited where Booster Gold saved the world while the regular heroes were preoccupied with the big, obvious threat.


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