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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#23277: Aug 19th 2015 at 6:30:52 AM

[up][up]Oh, I know. It's not a matter of him being stronger, it's a matter of him inheriting the school without petty conflict, and turning it something more benign (since the reason he left was because he actually valued integrity).

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#23278: Aug 19th 2015 at 7:05:29 AM

They don't break with a power too high, they break when the power shoots up too fast.

This. Making casual adjustments to one's battle power is a rare and obscure ability in the Planet Trade. It's not completely unheard of, but it's uncommon enough to take even members of the Ginyu Force by surprise.

As such, the Scouters were not designed to handle a person's battle power suddenly becoming 20x higher in seconds.

So Yamcha kind took a page from Krillin's book, but went Private instead of Law Enforcement?

Both good work for these guys. Seriously, jokes aside, even Yamcha is more powerful than nearly anything that exists on Earth. Any career that lets him take advantage of his proficiency for super-battle is perfect.

They have one last glorious fight. A fight that shakes the heavens and tears the world asunder. The destroy the world they're fighting on and apparently even blow up a star.

When all's said and done, in their final moments, they share one last laugh. A laugh from the thrill of battle. A laugh from how their lives had gone. A laugh from the acceptance that this is how they'll die.

If they destroy the planet they're fighting on and even the nearby star, they're going to be hard-pressed to laugh from the vacuum of space.

edited 19th Aug '15 7:05:59 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23279: Aug 19th 2015 at 7:43:21 AM

All Dende did was revive Kami's balls and give them a little polish. Dende's balls probably would have been able to do it.

.......

There's no pole long enough.

Anyway, I wonder why Yamcha didn't stick with Baseball? More prestige, and possibly more money too.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#23280: Aug 19th 2015 at 7:48:51 AM

Scandal.He cheated on too many fangirls.

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#23281: Aug 19th 2015 at 7:51:40 AM

I like to think Bulma secretly kept buying any team he wanted to enter and ordered them to kick him out. You know, rich people entertainment!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23282: Aug 19th 2015 at 8:00:24 AM

That seems rather spiteful.

.....Bulma is has a bad temper, but I don't think she'd do that.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#23283: Aug 19th 2015 at 9:57:24 AM

Wasn't the whole baseball thing filler?

Or did Toriyama just forget about it? :P

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23284: Aug 19th 2015 at 9:58:28 AM

I was under the impression that while it was something the writers added for the anime, Toriyama gave them the idea for it.

Or something along those lines.

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#23285: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:08:39 AM

Well, if Toriyama had the idea for it and he didn't forget about it, then maybe Yamcha just doesn't like the constant attention and stress that comes with being a celebrity?

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#23286: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:49:24 AM

Baseball was filler, which is why he didn't stick with it.

It went the same way that Frieza and Cell being Bash Brothers in Hell did, just with less prejudice since it didn't contradict anything from the source material.

edited 19th Aug '15 10:49:56 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23287: Aug 19th 2015 at 10:54:52 AM

Am I the only one more than a little disappointed that Vegeta's 'let's go to the park' didn't pan out instead into 'let's go to a nature preserve' which #17 is working at and Bulma would insist that they have dinner with his family while Lapis and Vegeta just stare at each other bewilderdly?

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#23288: Aug 19th 2015 at 2:20:45 PM

17 and Vegeta have no history together. So it wouldn't really be any different than going to dinner with anyone else for him.

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#23289: Aug 19th 2015 at 3:06:40 PM

Vegeta knows #17 is an Android and the twin of the Android who beat the shit out of him. #17 knows that Vegeta is the Prince Of All Saiyans and an egotistical douche who doesn't care about anyone but himself and his own ego. The fact that they never interacted would make them meeting each other even more awkwardly hilarious because all either of them would know about the other would be their own pre-existing stereotypes regarding each others personalities.

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#23290: Aug 19th 2015 at 3:19:55 PM

Not really; it's not like things are awkward with 18 or Lazuli or whatever.

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#23291: Aug 19th 2015 at 3:26:42 PM

Vegeta surpassed 17 and 18 and he knows it, so he's got nothing to hold against them. The only grudge he holds is against Goku and that's because Goku didn't just beat him one time. In fact, Goku has technically never beaten him; that first victory was a team effort and their second fight was interrupted. They've never had a fight that ended with Goku standing unambiguously triumphant and Vegeta flat on his back in defeat.

Vegeta's grudge is about the fact that Goku surpassed him, not any specific victory in battle. It's that he persists at being an unachievable goal. Every time Vegeta thinks he's finally surpassed Goku, Goku shows up stronger than ever and Vegeta's back at square one. Goku's never defeated Vegeta unambiguously in a fight, but he never had to; from the moment he bested the Ginyu Force, Vegeta's known who was stronger and has never been able to close that distance for long.

edited 19th Aug '15 3:28:17 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23292: Aug 19th 2015 at 3:41:27 PM

Vegeta dislikes most people in general, and just because he's stronger than #17 doesn't mean he doesn't hold him in contempt because of his attitude or personality. Somehow I don't see the revelation the both Vegeta and Lapis are family men not taking the other by surprise.

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#23294: Aug 19th 2015 at 4:20:21 PM

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Well, it's no different from some series that have differences between Demons, Devils, and Fallen Angels really.

Also:

We know Toriyama did submit filler ideas to the anime (such as Gregory or Yamcha’s job playing baseball)
.

So yeah, while the Yamcha baseball thing was filler, Toriyama did come up with it, but I had no idea he did the same with Gregory as well. Also, it's interesting to note that he apparently watched the anime regularly. I often thought Manga writers don't get to do that.

It's possible that there are multiple demon realms, and multiple races of demons, kind like there are humans with different skin colours.

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#23295: Aug 19th 2015 at 4:59:43 PM

Again, it would not be any different for Vegeta to meeting anybody else. Vegeta not care.

[up]Toriyama wrote by the seat of his pants and had to rush a lot of his work because he was usually doing things not conducive to work.

Like playing Dragon Quest. IINM, he did that a lot.

edited 19th Aug '15 5:00:59 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#23296: Aug 19th 2015 at 5:09:37 PM

I know about the writing by the seat of his pants thing, but do we have confirmation of the playing Dragon Quest thing?

Cause that explains a lot.

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JonnasN from Porto, Portugal Since: Jul, 2012
#23297: Aug 19th 2015 at 5:31:52 PM

Neko Majin are extremely long-lived, possibly immortal, and can even sleep for 30-straight years. In addition to the Neko Majin, there is also at least one Usagi Majin (majin bunny), who is the enemy of the Neko Majin.

This sounds way too close to what Beerus is. I wonder if the similarities to Nekomajin were intentional.

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#23298: Aug 19th 2015 at 5:32:36 PM

[up][up]its one of the reasons Yoshihiro Togashi is always on Haitus. tongue

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#23299: Aug 19th 2015 at 5:36:46 PM

I think it actually came about in an interview while talking about his work in character design, but I can't remember if it was Toriyama himself who said it or the interviewer making a joke (since the release dates of Dragon Quest games are a national holiday in Japan).

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#23300: Aug 19th 2015 at 6:40:09 PM

Why wouldn't Vegeta care about meeting Lapis ranging a park with a wife and kids? Vegeta is a well-documented asshole who doesn't like the vast majority of intelligent life in the universe, much less someone who he knows is an Android and the brother of #18, who beat him up, and has a cocky, smarmy attitude. Vegeta doesn't know Lapis but he undeniably has a low opinion of him and Lapis having a family would be surprising.


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