So I hope nobody minds if I have a sort of running commentary as I watch the DBZ movies.
You can do it, Chi Chi! You have a power level of 130! That's pretty impressive...for 3 arcs ago.
Yep, down she goes.
It's very jarring that Chuck Huber uses his Pilaf/Crane Hermit voice for Garlic. I mean, Garlic is SUPPOSED to be a serious villain.
I forgot how positively adorable littlest Gohan was.
◊ I think it's the hat and tail.
So that makes two characters who get pissed on by a member of the Son family. I wonder if there will be anymore.
And the highlight of that movie was Gohan trippin' dragon balls.
Overall Score: Forgettable/10.
edited 6th Apr '13 2:49:42 PM by Nikkolas
So I will watch Movie 2 but I skipped to 3 because I was interested in it.
Turles is voiced by Chris Patton. YES.
Also this exchange:
Goku: I raised [Gohan] to know the difference between good and evil! Unlike some people...
Turles: I know the difference - I just don't care.
Awesome.
So to make this movie fit in any sort of logical timeline, I can only assume Freeza never went to Namek. Gohan, Krillin and Bulma went there and got teh balls and wished everyone back and then returned home.
Okay maybe it doesn't work but that's my best shot at it.
Also for some reason the dub skips over any mention of power levels. Subs are automatically on though and I'm pretty sure it had Turles' scouter reading Goku's PL at 30,000 and rising. Then he used a Kaioken x 20. So that's at least 600,000 right?
Turles after eating a fruit owned him though so Turles' PL is way higher than 600,000? That's pretty interesting.
Goku was also concerned about Great Ape Oozaru Gohan being hit by regular Turles' energy blast. Gohan had a PL of 10.000 I believe so he was at 100,000. So normal Turles is ~100K?
edited 6th Apr '13 6:17:40 PM by Nikkolas
Well it can't be before they go to Namek because all the humans are alive.
Piccolo was read at about 18,000 I think? I read that part on the DB Wiki. Training under King Kai could have potentially brought him to that level.
But yeah, Turles could stomp the Ginyu Force or base Freeza. Above 600,000 is unfathomable for that time.
Well Gohan still has his Namek haircut and Piccolo's outfit.
Plus Goku's power level is only 30.000. Base Goku was zillions of times stronger than that by the Android Saga.
And on the power levels discussion, Goku only used Kaioken x 10 in the original. Funi changed it to x20. So he was 300.000. Nevertheless, Turles ate a second fruit so he should still be well above 600,000 at his best.
edited 6th Apr '13 6:27:09 PM by Nikkolas
Well it's like Vegeta said - "this is so non-canon it hurts."
I was just having fun trying to put it in the timeline.
I can tell you that Movie 8 causes all kinds of confusion, especially since everyone wants to figure out just how strong Broly is.
"Trunks had long-hair!"
"But Goku and Gohan weren't Super Saiyan all the time so they weren't Full Power Super Saiyan!"
Most would agree it's obviously set right before teh Cell Games but not everyone.
If everyone survives then why would they go to Namek at all? Also Yamcha has the King Kai symbol on his GI indicating he trained with him.
You know I should rewatch these movies again. I vaguely remember seeing a fair amount but I can't remember specifics on many of them.
edited 6th Apr '13 6:44:22 PM by Kostya
I liked Tree of Might a fair bit. It was certainly a lot better than Dead Zone.
And I still vouch for the pants-less Saiyan armor being the best. Turles makes it work really well.
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I'll watch Movie 2 in a bit. If TFS is anything to go by though..it looks really bad.
What four years? Between Namek and the Android Saga? Aren't only the Cooler movies set during that period? Cooler is Movie 5 and I know Movie 4 takes place before all of that because Goku only has "False Super Saiyan". (ingenious creation there, Toei)
Also watching Movie 2. lol @ at the opening with a group shot of all the heroes then Goku appears and totally obscures Chaotzu.
The Android Saga has Super Android 13, Broly and Bojack.
edited 6th Apr '13 7:05:58 PM by Nikkolas
Hirudegarn is weaker than Janemba, Slug is weaker than Turles, Bio-Broly is weaker than Movie 10 Broly, who himself may or may not be weaker than Bojack. Depends on how much stronger Broly is than he was in 8, if at all.
edited 6th Apr '13 11:07:44 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Movie 2-4 simply can't take place after Namek. They would make even less sense there than they already do.
Slug is waaaaaaay stronger than Tullece, Goku uses a Kaio-ken x100 to beat him.
M10 Broli had a clear advantage over teenage SS2 Gohan while Bojack was manhandled by kid SS2 Gohan... it's pretty hard to compare them.
edited 6th Apr '13 11:09:23 PM by Saiga

Is that really how it happened? I seem to remember some other guys were there...with spiky golden hair...
Maybe I'm just remembering a fanfic.