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#23151: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:24:22 AM

I'm going to guess not. Toriyama writes by the seat of his pants. I don't expect King Cold actually existed until Goku and Frieza's fight was underway, when Frieza made the comment about only his parents being able to get dust on him before.

Getting dust on Frieza in his Final Form seems like more of an accomplishment than Captain Ginyu is capable of, even if he is using a low power percentage. 10% Final Form Frieza is still a battle power of 12 million.

edited 17th Aug '15 10:25:30 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23152: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:45:47 AM

Krillin was in the prime of his life, though. He doesn't have that excuse, which means 75,000 is his full potential.

It's not his full potential any more than Majin Vegeta is Vegeta's full potential. Hell, even that 75,000 is not what he had after he got the power up, he got stronger after that.

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#23153: Aug 17th 2015 at 11:44:39 AM

The Kaioshin let Freeza be on a account of being wasted by Majin Buu and the last one left chasing after Bibidi's son.

Granted, the end result is the same, Krillen being able to run amok among the stars as soon as he forces the helpless Earthlings to build him a spaceship, but it's less "let him be" and more "too busy".

But even then, I doubt it. The mutants can raise their battle power too. Remember, two of them got to be as strong as Freeza and had the power to fuse, another of them was stronger than Kami merged and room of spirit and time training weights off Piccolo. That's at least two\three people theoretically able to beat Krillen...assuming they didn't just join forces. Jaco seemed to be just as strong as him too, suggesting the Galactic Patrolmen can also raise their battle powers...though Jaco has no KI techniques so he'd probably still lose once he ran out of ammo and batteries.

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#23154: Aug 17th 2015 at 11:49:19 AM

And absolutely none of them showed up in the manga so I don't give a crap about any of that. In the actual manga, Krillin is strong enough to take over the universe.

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#23155: Aug 17th 2015 at 11:50:38 AM

I don't think the Kaioshin would have cared about Frieza even if there were all four of them and Dai Kaioshin still alive and kicking. Their job is not to patrol the universe battling anything that may pose a threat to innocent lives. They're gods; being cosmic superheroes is below their pay grade.

Majin Buu warranted their attention because he's a god-killing abomination. Babidi warranted their attention because he was attempting to revive said god-killing abomination. Frieza is just a mortal despot. The Kaioshin would be hard-pressed to give two kaioshits about him.

edited 17th Aug '15 11:51:52 AM by TobiasDrake

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#23156: Aug 17th 2015 at 2:18:00 PM

Jaco was in the companion manga, and the events of the Tarble OVA are referenced in BOG. The days when the DB manga was the only source making up the continuity passed a few years ago.

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#23157: Aug 17th 2015 at 2:19:25 PM

I noticed something interesting. When Goku is SSJ3, some of his hair still sticks upwards even when it's down to his legs. SSJ3 Vegeta hair, on the other hand, slicks all the way down.

I wonder why that is.

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#23158: Aug 17th 2015 at 2:25:55 PM

Because Goku's hair is wild and unruly with spikes going every which way, while Vegeta's hair is slick and organized, with a unified direction.

It reflects the way Goku is chaotic, pursuing his goals at any cost even when they're flatly impossible, refusing to be held back by anything. Vegeta is orderly, having a static worldview of where everything sits in relation to each other and flipping his shit when proven wrong.

Alternately, it's a meaningless cosmetic choice and Silent Hill has trained me to see meaning in everything. But either way, it's how their hair is.

edited 17th Aug '15 2:30:12 PM by TobiasDrake

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#23159: Aug 17th 2015 at 2:49:33 PM

The real reason is that Vegeta just can't keep it up for as long as Goku can.

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#23160: Aug 17th 2015 at 3:05:54 PM

Vegeta gets SSJ 3?

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#23162: Aug 17th 2015 at 3:13:10 PM

You get a SSJ 3!

And you get a SSJ 3!

And you get a SSJ 3!

Except for you, Pan.

Screw you.

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#23163: Aug 17th 2015 at 3:43:00 PM

Raditz got shafted as far as fantasy Super Saiyans are concerned too :(

edited 17th Aug '15 3:43:18 PM by DoctorDiabolical

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#23164: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:16:06 PM

And Nappa.

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#23165: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:18:13 PM

What would SSJ 3 Nappa look like?

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#23167: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:29:02 PM

That's pretty legit.

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#23168: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:53:05 PM

Just saying, Dragon Ball Raging Blast did SSJ 3 Vegeta before DBH even existed. Same goes for SSJ 3 Broly.

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#23169: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:55:54 PM

SSJ3 Broly first appeared in W Bakkaratsu Impact and Vegeta in Dragon Battlers (as an tie-in for Raging Blast).

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#23170: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:07:10 PM

Regarding the Humans: I actually think they were all in the VERY low millions by the Android Saga. I have absolutely nothing to base this on except for all of them being martial artists who want to constantly get stronger and remember: it wasn't just Goku and Vegeta who shot down Bulma's plan of 'kill the guy making the Androids right now', Piccolo also objected to the plan, as did Tenshinhan, who was clearly speaking for the humans when he said it. I like to think that by the time the Android Saga happened the humans were at:

Chioutzu: 1,000,000

Tenshinhan: 1,650,000

Yamcha: 1,350,000

Krillin: 2,000,000

like I said: I have absolutely nothing to base these numbers on except that I like all four main human characters and there's nothing saying that they can't be at least THIS strong, dammit!

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#23171: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:12:09 PM

Yeah, we have absolutely no idea wheat their boosts from King Kai were and what the boosts from the three-year gap were. At least I remembered the three-year gap this time. tongue

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#23172: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:16:31 PM

If Chaozu ever got into the quadruple digits, I would be shocked.

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#23173: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:19:44 PM

I like to think that humans besides Krillin never broke the 10 000.

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#23174: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:20:37 PM

[up] That would be kind of strange, if only because it would mean King Kai totally ripped Goku off.

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#23175: Aug 17th 2015 at 5:39:24 PM

Goku trained with King Kai for like a year and didn't break 10,000 with him. The humans only trained for like, what, half a year?

On the other hand it seems like everyone but Goku gets bigger benefits from the same training sessions.

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