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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#22701: Aug 13th 2015 at 2:56:49 PM

Super Saiyan 3 Gohan looks nice.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#22702: Aug 13th 2015 at 3:00:23 PM

The problem is everyone looks the same as SSJ 3. It's hard to tell them all apart.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#22705: Aug 13th 2015 at 3:11:51 PM

The problem is everyone looks the same as SSJ 3. It's hard to tell them all apart.

That's racist.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#22706: Aug 13th 2015 at 3:17:15 PM

More like Specieist, since unless it's something unique to Goku or his bloodline, which are the only two canonical users of SSJ 3, it's a trait of the Saiyan species as a whole.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#22707: Aug 13th 2015 at 4:04:31 PM

It looks as if they just copy/past SSJ 3 Goku head onto Gohan.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#22709: Aug 13th 2015 at 4:41:23 PM

[up] Thank you.

I didn't want to be the one to bring it up this time.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22710: Aug 13th 2015 at 4:52:37 PM

To be fair, I don't want to see Pan as Super Saiyan 3.

It's ugly enough on male characters.

If they are so unwilling to do it, maybe they should just have her receive the mystic power up from Old Kai. It's apparently superior to most Super Saiyan forms outside of the God forms anyway.

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#22711: Aug 13th 2015 at 4:54:39 PM

Super Saiyan Gog Super Saiyan 4 Pan.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
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#22713: Aug 13th 2015 at 4:59:29 PM

We'll see Mega Krillin before we see Super Sayian Pan.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22714: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:03:47 PM

[up][up]Fair enough.

Their reluctance to give Pan Super Saiyan is baffling. I know Toriyama has been said (supposedly) to not know how to draw a female Super Saiyan (really?), but even if I bought that, I'm baffled as to their reluctance to do it. They've given everyone one different super saiyan forms, but they are still finding it so hard to give Pan the basic super saiyan.

I don't want to jump to the their being needlessly sexist explanation, but is there any other reason why they've done nothing on that front? There has to be, because even pointless sexism only goes so far.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:03:55 PM by HandsomeRob

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#22715: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:05:22 PM

I mean, they're not that much more sexist than a lot of others in the anime industry.

Still kinda sexist though.

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#22716: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:06:38 PM

They already have one of the female OC main characters as a Super Saiyan for Christ's sake.

Speaking of which, the actual designs for the player-characters are just unique enough for me to want a DBH anime or something.

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#22717: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:07:54 PM

We'll get Super Human God Super Human Krillin, Super Saiyan 4 Raditz, Golden Chilled, Fat Semi-Perfect Cell, and Mystic Yamcha before Super Saiyan Pan is ever considered.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#22718: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:10:51 PM

At this point, I really do wonder if there is some kind of bias against Pan.

I mean, they gave Broly multiple Super Saiyan forms, and both the American and Japanese fans apparently don't really care for him.

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#22719: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:44:07 PM

It looks as if they just copy/past SSJ 3 Goku head onto Gohan.

Check out the bangs. That big hair spike that hangs down in front of his face as Super Saiyan 2? He has two of those now.

That's how I realized it was Gohan.

I mean, they're not that much more sexist than a lot of others in the anime industry.

This. Japan is a super-sexist culture. "Because Japan," is actually a reasonable answer to the question, "Why is anime so sexist?"

And it rubs off on otakus.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:44:44 PM by TobiasDrake

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#22720: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:44:37 PM

Nobody really cares about Pan.

Hell, you guys don't really care about Pan, you're just using her as an excuse to bring up the whole 'no female Super Saiyans' thing.

If years of gaming have taught me anything, it's that people don't mind playing female characters. Hell, when given the choice, I tend to play female characters myself.

In some cases, where gender is purely aesthetic, like, say, Lineage 2, it's merely for the whole "If I'm gonna be looking at an ass all day, it better be an ass worth looking at". Sometimes, though, there are differences. I'll gladly tell you that I very much prefer playing as the female MC in Persona 3, purely because she has far more interesting social links. Being able to Social Link with my teammates already sells me a million times more than some bland, underdeveloped characters.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#22721: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:45:58 PM

I like Pan.

She was one of the best things at the end of Z.

I mean, I even liked her in GT. I just didn't especially like the way she was treated.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:46:10 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#22722: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:47:42 PM

Yeah, Pan got her exposure in GT. It's not like I'm not interested in the concept but it's not really that big a deal to me if it ever happens or not. The whole super saiyan concept has been watered down so much it wouldn't even mean anything in story anyway.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:48:43 PM by LSBK

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#22723: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:48:21 PM

Yeah Pan got her time to shine in GT.

...I think you and I watched very different versions of GT.

I mean, I don't think anyone "shined" in GT.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:49:33 PM by unnoun

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#22724: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:49:15 PM

Which is why I edited the post. Though she still got her moments in.

edited 13th Aug '15 5:50:05 PM by LSBK

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#22725: Aug 13th 2015 at 5:52:49 PM

I admit to not liking Pan at all and only using her to illustrate confusion at a lack of female Super Saiyans.


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