TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Dragon Ball

Go To

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#22376: Aug 7th 2015 at 6:36:20 PM

The reason will be "You shitty youngsters hate training. It's up to us old folks to save the day!"

My various fanfics.
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#22377: Aug 7th 2015 at 6:41:50 PM

There's really no reason why humans should be left behind either. They bullshitted up a few reasons for saiyans to become more powerful (Zenkai, transformation), so a new way for humans, or namekians, or anything really, to be more powerful can be similarly bullshitted up from narrative convenience.

I have a message from another time...
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#22378: Aug 7th 2015 at 6:53:28 PM

Humans could use Spiral Energy. wink

Watch Symphogear
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#22379: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:10:55 PM

No. None of that. Shame on you.

By the by, Zelenal saying that Vegetto isn't stronger than Beerus is purely speculation.

Fact is, we don't know if Vegetto can take Beerus... but I'd bet on Vegetto.

edited 7th Aug '15 7:13:07 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#22380: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:17:15 PM

Except Goku himself said that even a fusion between him and Vegeta would be useless against Beerus.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22381: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:17:50 PM

Yeah. So we do know.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#22382: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:19:12 PM

Would that be Dance fusion or Potara fusion though? The latter is IIRC far more powerful.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22383: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:20:25 PM

The only canonical fusion between Goku and Vegeta would be Vegetto. That's the only one he's been in so that's the only one he knows the power of.

It would be odd if he was talking about Gogeta when he's likely never been Gogeta.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#22384: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:55:16 PM

It would have to be Gogeta, though, unless a new pair of Potaras dropped out of a plot hole into Goku's pocket.

I have a message from another time...
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22385: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:56:26 PM

Goku could have just been speaking hypothetically. Ya know, like "I'd have to be able to fuse with Vegeta again in order to beat him."

Also, Kibito Kai should still have his Potara.

edited 7th Aug '15 7:59:22 PM by Zelenal

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#22386: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:58:41 PM

And he'd know how strong a hypothetical Gogeta would be. Guy knows his fusion dances.

I have a message from another time...
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22387: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:00:37 PM

Perhaps but why on Earth would he be assuming the one fusion that hasn't, as far as we can tell, canonically happened when we have one that has happened that he can easily compare it to?

Also, Vegeto's power is apparently Goku's power x Vegeta's power provided the wiki's source (Dragon Ball: Super Exciting Guide) is to be believed.

edited 7th Aug '15 8:02:54 PM by Zelenal

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#22388: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:02:48 PM

Why would he be comparing the one option he doesn't have?

I have a message from another time...
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22389: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:11:33 PM

Ya know, something amusing about Battle of Gods is that it's probably the only instance of Shenron deciding he's had enough of this shit and leaving before any wish is made. Even if you count giving information on the Super Saiyan God as a wish, they still have a second one.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#22390: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:11:40 PM

And why is that IANCE? It's no different then Ki, just taken to a whole new level from it, and has as much about will power as it is about fighting power.

If the human fighters learned it, they too, could throw galaxy's like shuriken. tongue

Or, they could become Pretty Cures. Yes, even the dudes.

Watch Symphogear
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#22391: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:15:29 PM

[up][up]I thought he was sh'tting himself because Beerus was there and wanted to get the heck out of dodge.

Heh. Beerus is the Chuck Norris of Dragonball

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22392: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:17:20 PM

[up] He was but that doesn't change the fact that he left without technically granting any wishes.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#22393: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:18:01 PM

so i just finished battle of the gods

whis best character

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#22394: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:18:27 PM

Goku almost certainly meant Gogeta. Vegetto is not an option for them. That's why they destroyed the Potaras.

Also interesting is that they technically cannot run out of Potara earrings. Kibito has shown the ability to make new ones. Gohan wore a pair when he was wearing the Supreme Kai's outfit.

@dgoc2

That series is more overrated than goddamn Friendship is Magic.

edited 7th Aug '15 8:22:00 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#22395: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:53:59 PM

Holy Shit!

I forgot about Kibitz making them. And Kibito Kai should have that power as well. So either he lost that ability, or Toriyama has forgotten or is ignoring that he can do that.

So that actually puts a new context to Goku's Fusion won't work comment. He knows Dance Fusion won't work, because it's too unstable (even if Super Saiyan 3 could match full power Beerus, it would burn out before he'd be able to beat him more than likely), but if Goku is aware that Kibito Kai can make new earrings, and that he could fuse with Vegeta again (and Beerus is enough of a Godzilla Threshold that he might even be able to convince the latter to go through with it), it would mean he's putting Vegetto in that same boat of not being strong enough.

....which doesn't make sense, since I thought Goku couldn't even sense Beerus' ki.

edited 7th Aug '15 8:54:38 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#22397: Aug 7th 2015 at 9:03:05 PM

It's almost as amazing as this.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#22399: Aug 7th 2015 at 9:18:36 PM

Goku mentioned Vegito, so that was the fusion he was talking about.

Though i wonder how strong a SSGSS Vegito would be.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#22400: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:26:50 PM

I wonder the power of Super Saiyan God SS. Is it Super Saiyan + Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan God x 50?


Total posts: 130,800
Top