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#22326: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:30:48 AM

I like to think Vegetto didn't want to kill his own children; even if he can just them, that doesn't necessarily mean he wants to.

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#22327: Aug 7th 2015 at 8:38:24 AM

I agree, but putting their own personal interests above the wellbeing of the rest of the universe is entirely consistent with every other boneheaded decision Goku and Vegeta have ever made. Vegetto has their combined poor decision-making skills.

I mean, at this point, Buu has already killed the entire planet, save for Dende and Mr. Satan. That a wish will be made on the Dragon to revive his victims once all is said and done is an absolute fact at this juncture.

edited 7th Aug '15 8:39:55 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22328: Aug 7th 2015 at 9:13:47 AM

The real reason for getting rid of Vegeto is that there could be no more plot otherwise. He is simple too strong. I mean, he was, by far, the most powerful entity in the manga in just Super Saiyan (in just Base in the anime) and he should at least have Super Saiyan 2 if not 3.

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#22329: Aug 7th 2015 at 9:51:08 AM

[up][up] Except in that case, its not exactly as selfish as wanting a good fight; I mean...Vegetto had no idea that his shield would split him apart and if he just kept it up, the plan would have went off without a hitch.

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#22330: Aug 7th 2015 at 9:59:26 AM

[up][up] Eh, if that were the problem, he could just be written as not so strong. Vegetto only has to be as strong as the plot demands.

I think the reason Vegetto had to go is because he was a cool concept and a lot of fun to have around, but not worth permanently sacrificing the characters of Goku and Vegeta.

edited 7th Aug '15 10:00:05 AM by TobiasDrake

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#22331: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:05:41 AM

To be fair, the fusion of The Hero and The Rival not being very strong would have been an extreme anticlimax.

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#22332: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:12:23 AM

The real solution would have been the Fusion Dance but Fusion Reborn beat Toriyama to it.

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#22333: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:19:09 AM

I agree with Zelennal and Tobias Drake. Vegito was Too Cool to Live, simple as that. Potara didn't have to exist if the point was to have Goku and Vegeta fuse in order to beat Buu and it was likely only done becuase the Fusion Reborn Movie already had them use the dance.

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#22334: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:28:34 AM

To be fair, the fusion of The Hero and The Rival not being very strong would have been an extreme anticlimax.

Oh, I don't mean to not have him be very strong, just...strong enough. If his strength was a problem, he could have simply beaten Buuhan, rather than effortlessly humiliating him. If he was meant to be competitively feasible, Toriyama could have written him powering up to Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and giving Buuhan a good fight but not dominating.

Battle powers by the time of the Buu Saga are heavily undefined. Everyone's power is only defined in relation to each other, so adjusting positions on the relative scale is easier.

But Vegetto was never going to last because he wasn't worth permanently dissolving Goku and Vegeta's characters, so he gets so shine brightly and be hilarious and awesome for the brief duration of his existence, just 'cause it's cool to watch. He's not staying, so Toriyama doesn't need to worry about his existence making things difficult for future villains.

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#22335: Aug 7th 2015 at 10:51:03 AM

Vegetto's split was probably meant to be in relation to the fusion dance's time limit now that you think about it.

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#22336: Aug 7th 2015 at 11:37:55 AM

Vegetto only existed to get Goku back in the spotlight. We already know that Toriyama went from deciding Gohan would be the hero to Goku, it's not like Vegetto was anything more than a step between.

That's why he was written out - not how he'd effect the plot, or wasn't worth the sacrifice of other characters, he never had a chance of even getting that far. As soon as he served his purpose he was done.

It's not "why Vegetto had to go" but "why Vegetto existed".

edited 7th Aug '15 11:39:24 AM by Saiga

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#22337: Aug 7th 2015 at 12:17:04 PM

I think part of the reason I don't like Vegetto is because I read some of Dragon Ball Multiverse and that showed what would have happened if Vegetto didn't get split up when Buu absorbed him.

And if you think other characters get shoved to the sidelines to make room for Goku and Vegeta now.....

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#22338: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:15:03 PM

That is probably the last place you should base your interpretation of any character on. The author himself admitted he blatantly ignores canon and substitutes it with his own preferences.

Epscially with Broly

edited 7th Aug '15 1:17:14 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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#22339: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:16:38 PM

You should never use fanfiction as evidence of how canon operates. Ever.

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#22340: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:41:58 PM

Broly kind of did go out like a bitch once SS3 Vegito got busted out.

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#22341: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:42:17 PM

Not that we don't critique the saga enough, but I honestly think Gogeta would've made more sense as a fusion anyway since he ended up coming up with an Ass Pull to defuse the supposedly permanent Vegetto.

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#22342: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:45:01 PM

Well blame Fusion Reborn for coming out before Toriyama could get to that point, since the man didn't want to step on their toes when he needed a fusion character.

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#22343: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:45:27 PM

[up][up]That's basically the reason we criticize Vegito.

edited 7th Aug '15 1:45:45 PM by VeryMelon

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#22344: Aug 7th 2015 at 1:48:54 PM

At the same time, we understand why Toriyama did it and enjoy the deliciousness that is Vegetto's awesome anyway.

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#22345: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:31:26 PM

Vegetto is a very enjoyable character yes.

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#22346: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:37:08 PM

....who Beerus was implied to still have Worffed. tongue

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#22347: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:38:14 PM

So how would Canon Vegetto be different from DBM Vegetto?

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#22348: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:38:35 PM

Vegeto basically has what would have been Gogeta's characterization if Fusion Reborn didn't decide to make him a robutt.

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#22349: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:46:01 PM

Fusion Reborn needs more Gogeta in it. I mean, I know he's just too powerful to have a 30 minute fight with Janemba... but you can just give Janemba a third form to make up for that, and have Gogeta murderize him by going SSJ 3.

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#22350: Aug 7th 2015 at 2:48:54 PM

There's also a limit to how long the movie could have lasted though...

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