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OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#21851: Jul 28th 2015 at 1:11:34 PM

Aw man, I can't wait till the Abridged series gets to that scene

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21852: Jul 28th 2015 at 1:15:29 PM

Vegeta is so mad in that scene, its perfect.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#21853: Jul 28th 2015 at 3:40:49 PM

It's pretty messed up. I understand where Vegeta's coming from, but most people seem not to. That whole arc was about knocking Vegeta down.

I think he came out better for it.

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#21854: Jul 28th 2015 at 4:40:42 PM

I know this is old, but I can see where Goku is coming from when it comes to allowing Vegeta to call him by his Saiyan name. My real name which I refuse to post) is very hard to pronounce because it's an African name. I don't like when people try to call me by my first name because they always butcher it. so when other Africans say it right, I don't mind.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#21855: Jul 28th 2015 at 4:43:10 PM

So, to you, it's like a Kinakakash/Kida kinda thing?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21856: Jul 28th 2015 at 4:45:06 PM

[up][up][up]Someone in the comments pointed that Goku probably didn't do that just to be a dick, but to spur Vegeta on to get stronger so he'd have a decent rival. That does make sense.

I dunno, I can see where Vegeta's coming from but it takes him the entire arc to actually start questioning things...and then he reverts the second Goku comes back. Then again, that can't be helped, his issues with Goku were kinda unresolved after he sacrificed himself.

edited 28th Jul '15 4:45:19 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21857: Jul 28th 2015 at 5:09:41 PM

so uh, is the whole thing about toriyama just goofing off the majority of the week and spending only the last 3 days actually completing the week's chapter during dragon ball's serialization? it's on Toriyama's page but i'd like a source if possible.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#21858: Jul 28th 2015 at 5:24:37 PM

By the way, I managed to just watch the English dub of the Battle of the Gods movie, and it looks like it used an extended cut of what we got on the Blu-Ray. The additions are pretty noticeable too — like Whis jumping into the Capsule Corp ship (while Beerus and Goku battled in the desert) to bother No. 18 about iced cream. Pleasantly surprised as a result.

OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#21859: Jul 28th 2015 at 5:39:13 PM

[up][up][up] Honestly, in the manga it really just seems to be one of Goku's Cloud Cuckoolander moments and he was just giving an honest answer to Vegeta's question.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21860: Jul 28th 2015 at 6:12:17 PM

That's Innocently Incensitive

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#21861: Jul 28th 2015 at 7:31:25 PM

[up]No, that's only if Goku is waving around aromatic plant materials and oils in Vegeta's face.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#21862: Jul 28th 2015 at 9:40:46 PM

Can we put Vegeta under Never Live It Down in regards to breaking the Gravity Chamber? Because in every work of fan-fiction I've seen where its been mentioned, it stated like it's a daily event and the only time it happened in Dragon Ball is one non-canon scene when he first got it.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#21863: Jul 28th 2015 at 10:20:11 PM

So, can any Namekian give birth to mutants, or is that just a thing King Piccolo and Naraka can do?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#21864: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:27:14 AM

[up][up]The Dragon Ball fandom is pretty dumb in regards to stuff like that.

If you read fanfiction, they'll also make you think that Chichi has a superpowerful Frying Pan that can harm Gohan and Goten which she uses all the goddamn time when in fact, she does not and also would never dream of hitting her children outside of training, let alone actually do it.

[up]Isn't it more of a dis-ability, considering normal Namekians are so much more powerful than the mutants?

edited 29th Jul '15 3:28:07 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#21865: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:43:08 AM

[up] That's not what "disability" means.

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OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#21866: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:48:39 AM

Chi-Chi is a great mother

Grabs popcorn

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21867: Jul 29th 2015 at 3:55:09 AM

as i've said before, her concerns would be rooted in something reasonable if she was just worried about her infant son fighting dangerous sociopaths, but the characterization we get just makes her look clueless.

edited 29th Jul '15 4:27:06 AM by wehrmacht

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#21868: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:09:06 AM

*prepares Time Machine*

As I've said before, Chi-Chi's concerns would be valid only if they were what you say they are. The only reason I can ever recall her giving is that she thinks his studies are more important than saving the Earth.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21869: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:21:33 AM

or to phrase it differently, if chichi was just worried about her son, that would be reasonable, but she's over-the-top about it that it ends up making her look like an annoying shrew who has no understanding of what her husband and his comrades are actually doing.

edited 29th Jul '15 4:28:29 AM by wehrmacht

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#21870: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:23:19 AM

The problem is I don't even think we're supposed to empathise with Chi-Chi. I mean, none of the characters ever tell us what she's saying is right. Ever.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21871: Jul 29th 2015 at 4:24:57 AM

well no we kind of aren't because she more or less looks ridiculous when there's stuff like cell or buu threatening the earth or whatever and she just seems to not understand the gravity of those situations.

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#21872: Jul 29th 2015 at 5:25:04 AM

See it from her perspective: how the hell is she supposed to comprehend that her less than ten year old child who wants to be a scientist and an intellectual is in any way more competent fighting to save the world than her husband; a three-time finalist in the Tenkaichi Budokai and a one-time winner who: defeated an evil army, killed an ancient evil demon lord who terrorized the Earth hundreds of years ago, and defeated the even stronger reincarnation of said evil demon lord!? In her mind, Gohan is her fragile little nerd and Goku is a near-godly force of evil-punching. Why should her baby have to anywhere near the battlefield when his father is the strongest man on Earth?

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#21873: Jul 29th 2015 at 5:37:52 AM

Because Goku died fighting Raditz and then got his shit stomped fighting Vegeta. Goku would have also failed both times had Gohan not been there. Those two incidents prove that Goku isn't invincible. She also clearly doesn't trust Goku at all when he says that he needs Gohan. She also clearly doesn't give two shits about Goku seeing as how she spurned him after the battle with Vegeta when he was almost dead and was completely incapacitated. She then went even further by blaming Goku for getting Gohan into that mess when Goku died fighting Raditz in order to save Gohan and then had to stay dead for a year in order to prevent an even greater threat from killing everyone.

Chi-Chi has never once done anything to make her likable. The reasons you're ascribing to her in order to defend her are never once stated or even implied anywhere; not in the manga, not in the anime (to my knowledge), not in anything else. It is your headcanon, not a fact.

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OmniGoat from New York, NY Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
#21874: Jul 29th 2015 at 5:55:43 AM

Well, she did cry when Goku died for good and seemed to be happy to see him again in the Buu Saga.

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wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#21875: Jul 29th 2015 at 6:21:28 AM

Chi-Chi has never once done anything to make her likable.

well to be fair she only really became that way after she grew up and married goku. we first see chichi as a little kid in which none of these things really apply.

tbh i'm surprised they actually followed up on that plot thread.


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