Exactly. Firstly, Gohan was always special. He was a monster of potential. Secondly, he was having to fight for his life and the life of those around him since he was 4-years-old. Goku did the same and Vegeta also worked his ass off for it. (almost dying in the process but I think that's anime only)
What did Goten and Trunks do? Wer they not fast enough to get the ice cream truck so they had to turn SSJ? And they're already strong enough to be on par or above 18. So that whole nightmarish future where the remnants of humanity live in fear and all of Earth's mightiest warriors are dead...could be stopped by the littlest morons.
Fucking little squirts. They are the worst hing about the Buu Saga.
Say what you want about the Cell Saga but it had atmosphere. The horror element with first the Androids and then Cell was done expertly.
edited 1st Apr '13 12:44:39 PM by Nikkolas
I liked the fanon idea that turning super is easier if your dad did it before you were born.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture RackMy problem isn't that everyone became a Saiyan, it's that it was so easy for Goten and Trunks. The four Saiyans before that were fine. They either trained really hard to attain it or had it awakened in a bout of unstoppable rage. Goten and Trunks just go "Hey, let me try that. Cool, it worked!"
Goku Jr. is the worst though.
Batte of Gods earned 7 million in opening weekend.
edited 1st Apr '13 3:20:27 PM by Spirit
#IceBearForPresident@Anom But... he isn't just one of a race.
His "race" is more of a clan or family going off what we know.
I have no idea why people have a problem with Goten/Trunks turning Super Saiyan so early. They only did so 2-3 years before the age where Gohan did the same thing. Gohan always had amazing potential, sure, but that's due to his hybrid nature... and guess who else are hybrids? They're just a little different in how they work. Goten and Trunks are a new generation of Saiyaman hybrids, born without tails, and unlike Gohan who taps into his dormant power through rage, they have a lot of power on the surface and can master Super Saiyan easily.
It's not even something that the Boo Arc introduced. The manga version of Trunks' flashback shows Trunks as a Super Saiyan as a kid. He's not as young as Trunks from the Boo Arc, but still pretty young and had the form way earlier than what the TV special suggested (he also never unlocked it through rage like in the special).
edited 1st Apr '13 4:12:47 PM by Saiga
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But that still worries me that Frieza is but the Yamcha of his clan.
Hybrid vigor is a thing, though I doubt there's much real reason here besides just a lucky combination of genetics. I think also there's something about the Saiyan bloodlust being tempered by human empathy to create a more pure-of-heart warrior, or something.
edited 1st Apr '13 5:16:08 PM by Anomalocaris20
You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!Well, it's just part of their nature. It's not something like they get X trait from humans that makes them better, because that's not how hybrids work.
For instance, Tigers are bigger and stronger than Lions. However, Ligers (Tiger/Lion hybrids) are bigger and stronger than full-blooded Tigers. It's Truth in Television.
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No, he's not. He's the strongest of his clan.
edited 1st Apr '13 5:17:34 PM by Saiga
Ya know, going back to the Babidi's goons talk, the reason why the Supreme Kai probably gets so little respect and why people mostly seem to think Piccolo was only afraid to fight him out of some vague "divine sense" is because the guy was always whining and afraid.
OH NO! IT'S PUI PUI!
OH NO! IT'S YAKON!
OH NO! IT'S DABURA!
And if Dabura was only fighting SSJ 1 Gohan, that's even sadder.
He just...radiated WEAK.
He did kinda stand up to Fat Buu though, in spite of his pants-wetting terror, so I can respect him a little. It takes more guts to face your fears than to be fearless.
It also helps that he's pretty cute. That's another reason why I said Kibitokai - he's not nearly as attractive anymore.
edited 1st Apr '13 6:31:07 PM by Nikkolas
I can't be the only one found full power really huge Perfect Cell pre Zenkai to be kinda derpy looking, am I?
Watch SymphogearYeah, I ask because I was confused about what state Gohan was in. Gohan is weaker there than he was as a kid, right? So Super Saiyan 1 Gohan shouldn't even stand a ghost of a chance against Dabura whether Dabura is close to regular or Super Perfect Cell.
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Yeah. He tried to look menacing and ended up looking Goofier then Fat Boo ever was in my opinion.

The legend is obv BS lol.
I never did like Goten and Trunks becoming SS so quickly though. It wasn't like Gohan's situation.
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