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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#21351: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:55:24 AM

I like how they outright said that there's no purpose to Beerus actions and he's basically destroying planets for fun.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21352: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:55:43 AM

I remember when Online came out, "Yes! GT is no longer canon!"

When Battle of Gods came out, "Huh, so Online's no longer canon. Well, as long as GT is less canon."

When Super was announced, "Well, GT's still less canon!"

Xenoverse might as well be canon at this point, it opens up a lot of narrative possibilities and Super more-or-less seems to be headed in that direction.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21353: Jul 19th 2015 at 12:09:02 PM

So the anime's version of those events are now canon? So something in the original manga is now non-canonical?

I may go cry in a corner.

Yes.

Feed me.

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#21354: Jul 19th 2015 at 12:19:23 PM

Yes, the presence of a halo when we see Kaio-sama in the Super manga does confuse things a rather lot.

EDIT: Wait, I just checked and he still has the halo in the Buu arc in the manga. So either the line that said he was revived was erroneously translated in the version I checked or this consistency error predates Super.

edited 19th Jul '15 12:24:53 PM by TobiasDrake

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#21355: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:29:13 PM

Actually, the anime is the "canon" one this time, since Toriyama is the one working on it. The manga is simply an adaptation of the anime being made by the guy who did the manga tie-in for Resurrection "F", the Dragon Ball Heroes manga, and the Dragon Ball AF doujinshi he was working on.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#21356: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:47:52 PM

Its canon, GT is caon, and your fanfics are canon.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#21357: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:50:01 PM

Yes, even that one.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21358: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:50:49 PM

I'm canon, and I have a cannon, meaning I'm actually Armed with cannon.

Can anyone beat that?

Edit: My bad, Forgot the second n in Cannon.

edited 19th Jul '15 2:04:42 PM by HandsomeRob

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21359: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:53:22 PM

Ahh!

I'm scared of cameras!

Run away!

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21360: Jul 19th 2015 at 1:57:42 PM

.......

Eh, fine then.

You can't escape my photography skills Unnoun.

None can escape.

One Strip! One Strip!
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#21361: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:01:13 PM

Wait, if you weren't referring to the brand of camera then what were you referring to?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21362: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:05:42 PM

The kind that fires a large flaming ball of metal that murders the hell of out everything.

I fixed the original post..... though I'll still chase Unnoun with a camera.

I think it's funny.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#21364: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:08:07 PM

They are when one's pointed directly at your face.

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Raven666 I'd totally hug you if that was something I did from Everywhere and Nowhere. I'm watching you. Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#21365: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:11:01 PM

So is there like a site or something that I can watch Super on that also includes English subtitles? I'm getting bored waiting to be able to watch it on the Funimation PS Channel.

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#21366: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:13:31 PM

Well, since it's not being spoilered anymore, I'll just make three points.

1. Superman's power was never infinite, not even pre crisis dick Superman. He was still no match for Darkseid(since the point of pre Crisis Darkseid was that the whole universe would have to come together to beat him)

2. A lot of Superman's feats don't make sense. Nearly from a nuke but being able to skirt an even horizon? And sometimes they are inconsistent. Can't go faster than light, can't break physics. Goes faster than light, fuck physics. Need's space suit. Oxygen if for pussies, space makes him stronger.

3. If you pick and choose from a select enough body of works you can paint a picture of Superman that makes enough sense, that is consistent enough. (Death Of Superman Superman, Justice League International Superman, Final Crisis Superman, ect)

My question continues to be why people are so high on Death Battle, as opposed anyone else making a case for Who Would Win? Wizard Magazine came to the conclusion Goku would win. I don't remember ever seeing it come up on a thread except on a website dedicated to that kind of thing. If you want to discuss that, fine. But I think we can discuss it without death battle. Edit:Never mind, we use the wizard picture for our own page.

As for Dragon Ball Online, well not really. KI use is much more common in the age 1000 thanks to Gohan, but everyone hasn't become the physical gods that were the Dragon Ball fighters because of it. Bikes and buses are still how most people get around. Most people haven't masted instant transmission. A good deal of the techniques your player character picks up are still obtained through guides(capsules) or trainers and as I pointed out earlier, the average time patrolman is still over five times weaker than Freeza at his weakest. They can handle the remnants of Freeza's army, the player characters with enough exp, Trunks and the class masters can obviously stop a couple androids but the general populace haven't become equals to the Dragon Ball fighters.

edited 19th Jul '15 2:15:16 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#21367: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:34:37 PM

My question continues to be why people are so high on Death Battle, as opposed anyone else making a case for Who Would Win?

Real quick, because I don't want to contribute more than I have to with bogging the thread with Death Battle talk.

The answer is because of 2 things. 1, they claim(claim, so don't push this point because they have been wrong a few times) to have thoroughly researched all canon material relating to the combatants before a Death Battle. And 2, They can play out the fights in animations.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#21368: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:36:14 PM

Because its Rule of Cool and people should just leave it alone.

But I can't really expect much from a domain that treats almost everything as Serious Business.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21369: Jul 19th 2015 at 2:50:12 PM

They are when one's pointed directly at your face.

not as scary as canons though

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#21370: Jul 19th 2015 at 3:08:11 PM

Guys guys don't worry I just checked the manga, and King Kai stays dead to accompany Goku there. So it is canon.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#21371: Jul 19th 2015 at 3:14:32 PM

Man, you people talk about canon a lot.

If it didn't happen in the manga, it isn't canon to the dragonball Toriyama wrote. And by "the manga" I mean the one Toriyama wrote. In fact, the only mention of something canon to the manga we've gotten is Jaco the Galatic Patrolman.

My stance on "Canon" is "If it doesn't contradict anything, it's a-okay." This view has served me pretty well over the years.

edited 19th Jul '15 3:15:09 PM by Cruherrx

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#21372: Jul 19th 2015 at 3:27:51 PM

That's not a bad view really.

And if anyone's got a problem with it, I still got my Cannon (of the shooting variety).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
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#21374: Jul 19th 2015 at 3:45:40 PM

If it doesn't contradict anything? Explain Dragon Ball Minus.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#21375: Jul 19th 2015 at 3:49:01 PM

That's just a chapter of Jaco, which is stated to be a tie-in to the original manga. Canon.

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