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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#21326: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:54:07 AM

I'm pretty sure that we heard Female Whis talk and her voice was distinctly feminine.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21327: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:55:50 AM

This is Japanese voice-acting. Do not expect me to distinguish between female and male voice-acting, its just not happening.

I've only seen Female Whis in the Super manga, unless she appears at the end of this episode. EDIT: Oh wait, start of last episode, This!Whis and Fat!Beerus were worried about getting caught by Our!Whis and That!Beerus.

  • I also just noticed an animation error (in this day and age). When they get on Bulma's ship, Videl's wearing nylons/leggings/stockings. In a later scene, they're gone. Unless she took them off five minutes after getting onboard.
  • So I'm guessing Chi-Chi took the wedding photo...

edited 19th Jul '15 9:02:40 AM by Soble

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21328: Jul 19th 2015 at 8:57:31 AM

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You Murasaki'ed me on that one, but yeah.

There is usually a difference between a male character voiced by a female actress (pronoun use) and a female character voiced by a female actress, but that's if we're lucky.

That being said, I'm positive Whis is supposed to be male.....

What pronouns does he(?) use? I never payed attention before.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#21329: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:02:15 AM

[up][up]We see Chanpa and Female Whis very prominantly in episode 2.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21330: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:03:26 AM

Chanpa, that's his name.

...champagne, or something else?

[up][up]I didn't hear which pronouns they used.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21331: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:03:56 AM

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What?

I don't remember that! When did it happen? I watched ep two and it ended with The Supreme Kais / Kaioushin's still worrying about Beerus.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21332: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:06:43 AM

I think they appeared in Episode 2. I do remember a scene of them worrying about whether or not Beerus noticed them, but I thought it was only in the Super manga. I don't remember hearing their voices, and even if I did, I missed which pronouns they used.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#21333: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:15:29 AM

Goddammit, sorry to get your hopes raised. I was mixing up the anime with the manga. Chapter 2, where their talking about how they don't need to worry about Beerus because he is preoccupied with Goku... Actually, that should be next episode.

edited 19th Jul '15 9:17:40 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21334: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:26:03 AM

Oh. That explains that.

~Puts down torch and pitchfork~

Almost got a little too worked up there.

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Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#21335: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:26:16 AM

@Handsome Rob The dragon balls yearly time limit only applies to mass revivals.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#21336: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:27:20 AM

How mass is 'mass' though?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21337: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:32:25 AM

Not sure actually. For all we know, reviving more than one person with a single wish could be considered mass.

The one time they revived a small number (two to three people) they used the Namek balls (which could only revive one at a time anyway).

Also, I forgot to mention, but Old Kai's comments about Beerus seem to have retconned that it's his job to destroy planets, and now imply he's just a fickle asshole who does it on a whim.

He was already that, but at least he was doing what he was supposed to be doing, but now.......

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#21338: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:39:16 AM

I don't think anythings changed: his job is to destroy planets and he's a fickle asshole who does it on a whim.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#21339: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:43:06 AM

To quote Beerus in Xenoverse:

Before creation comes destruction.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#21340: Jul 19th 2015 at 9:44:03 AM

Right, in episode 2 he destroyed a planet that had a civilization still in the caveman stage, so he doesn't seem to care how young a planet is.

@Soble: people refer Whis as he/him, so he probably identifies as male at least.

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#21341: Jul 19th 2015 at 10:05:09 AM

I like that Super acknowledged how much of dick Goku is for never wishing King Kai back to life. [lol]

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#21343: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:19:12 AM

Didn't they wish for everyone killed by Cell to be brought back to life? How did that not also revive King Kai?

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#21344: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:22:26 AM

Having so much fun with Dokkan Battle.

It's Free-to-Play but the Puzzles & Dragons good kind of Free-to-Play and not the more aptly termed Fee-to-Play. It takes a lot of inspiration from P&D like many of the better Android games do.

I'm sad that characters can't evolve in this, though. I suppose it was inevitable; not everyone gets a transformation. What would Krillin evolve into?

Super Saiyans, different Frieza forms, etc. are separate characters you can put on your team instead, and they can be Awakened by using "Awakening Items" that are like mentors teaching the character to surpass their limits. There's Master Roshi, Bubbles, Gregory, Dr. Gero, etc.

Oh, and character groups! Characters get bonuses for being in battle alongside others in their groups, and there's tons of them. Like, Goku, Chi-Chi, and Kid Gohan get stronger Defense when they fight alongside each other, or Goku and Krillin get a boost to their attacks because they have the Best Buddies category to themselves.

edited 19th Jul '15 11:26:50 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21345: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:26:41 AM

Didn't they wish for everyone killed by Cell to be brought back to life? How did that not also revive King Kai?

Good fucking question!!!!

Unless his death was seen as being more Goku's fault (since he's the one who brought Cell there).

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#21346: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:35:04 AM

In the manga, Kaio-sama was revived by Shenron. His resurrection was grounds for his forgiving Goku for just showing up and getting him killed out of f*cking nowhere.

In the anime, he was more forgiving and made weirder lifestyle choices I guess, because he agreed to not be revived alongside Goku so that he could stay in the afterlife and guide him in his training. Which doesn't make as much sense as the filler writers thought it did.

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#21347: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:45:55 AM

So the anime's version of those events are now canon? So something in the original manga is now non-canonical?

I may go cry in a corner.

Really, what is it about Dragon Ball that makes deciding what is and isn't canon so freaking hard?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#21348: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:49:54 AM

I still say Bojack is canon.

I'll always say Bojack is canon even though he isn't just because.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#21349: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:50:49 AM

Because the author himself seems to care little about canonical information.

He's never openly denounced any of the franchise's various spin-offs, only the fans get uppity about what's canon and what isn't, what's "worthy" of being canon, etc.

[up]See, I personally love Cooler, Meta Cooler, and the Frieza and Cell in Hell filler. And Toriyama refuses to reference Cooler and it makes me so mad every time I think about it, its turning my hair blond.

edited 19th Jul '15 11:54:04 AM by Soble

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#21350: Jul 19th 2015 at 11:53:02 AM

I figure the Super anime is following the original anime and the Super manga is following the original manga.


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