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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#21151: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:32:34 AM

Since I'm the one who bested Saiga it's only fair to make ME the new pope. I shall be the Whis of this thread.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21152: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:33:01 AM

[up] pls l2read & see [up][up]

edited 18th Jul '15 12:33:20 AM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#21153: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:35:32 AM

Except the bio-mechanical thing actually did come from the Android Saga.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21154: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:38:21 AM

Please actually read my post on the last page. That has nothing to do with what I said.

I never said anything about the bio-mechanical parts - I was talking about the "only bombs are mechanical"

Mostly bio-mechanical =/= only the bomb is mechanical. The first is much vaguer.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#21155: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:40:32 AM

[up][up][up]Ugh, no-one is arguing that they used to be human, that's obvious. In the manga, when Krillin brings Bulma the Android blueprints he found in Dr. Gero's sub-lab, she explicitly states that all of their alterations were bio-mechanical and the reason for that is because they are designed to be absorbed by Cell. The shut-off mechanism caught her eye as it was the only thing metal on their bodies. #18 being completely organic in the Buu Saga was NOT a retcon as it was an established fact in the Cell Saga.

[up]That's a bad translation. All of her is organic. Even the bomb actually, because the shut-off mechanism was the ONLY metal thing in her body.

edited 18th Jul '15 12:43:14 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21156: Jul 18th 2015 at 12:59:33 AM

The quote was already posted, and I just checked the manga myself.

You're wrong. What you're saying isn't actually in the manga.

edited 18th Jul '15 12:59:49 AM by Saiga

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#21157: Jul 18th 2015 at 1:08:34 AM

[up]What are you even arguing? Lazuli can still be mostly human while having most of her alterations be bio-mechanical. Say she's 55% human, 40% bio-mechanical, and 5% metal. It can work.

edited 18th Jul '15 1:09:16 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21158: Jul 18th 2015 at 1:36:17 AM

I'm arguing that the Android arc wasn't so specific as to say the bomb was the only mechanical part.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#21159: Jul 18th 2015 at 1:37:53 AM

Re: Dragon Ball Heroes pictures

From that description, it almost sounds like SSJ 3 Cell Games Gohan. The picture is too tall for that, though. And that would be a horrible idea.

edited 18th Jul '15 1:38:20 AM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21160: Jul 18th 2015 at 1:45:54 AM

The only thing I can think of that would fit the description would be a Boo arc Gohan who continued wearing Piccolo's gear (and training, cus SS3).

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#21161: Jul 18th 2015 at 1:52:35 AM

[up] It's literally everyone's fanfic.

Like, even more fanficcy than Dragon Ball Heroes normally is.

edited 18th Jul '15 1:53:03 AM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#21162: Jul 18th 2015 at 3:06:55 AM

And now it's "the Vegeta's" turn to chime in.

Biomechanical doesn't mean organic. It's the study of mechanisms relating to the body. An artificial heart is biomechanical. A prosthetic hand is biomechanical. Robot legs for paraplegics are biomechanical.

I'm reasonably sure that so long as 17 and 18's modifications resemble and reproduce the functions of their human biology, they qualify as biomechanical regardless of whether they're made from living tissue or steel.

edited 18th Jul '15 3:11:22 AM by TobiasDrake

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21163: Jul 18th 2015 at 3:22:36 AM

Now see, that I didn't know (my RL knowledge sucks, I once stabbed myself in the face trying to cook steak) but that's certainly interesting.

Does that make 16 biomechanical?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#21164: Jul 18th 2015 at 4:49:11 AM

Actually, since 16 does not have a human base he was built from, he's as biomechanical as my computer.

But I do wonder, does this make Android 20 Biomechanical? I mean, he isa prosthetic body attached to a brain...

Also, I was operating under the misconception that 'biomechanical' meant 'completely organic but manmade bodyparts', so 17 and 18 would be basically "Human, but made stronger through SCIENCE!".

If biomechanical can also include 'prosthetics', then I'm going with the idea that 95% of their bodies were replaced with stronger prosthetics, and the 5% that remained of the originals happened to contain 18's reproductive system.

edited 18th Jul '15 4:49:46 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#21165: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:12:48 AM

And "organic" doesn't mean living tissue, it means "certain combination carbon based molecules". The most famous example is plastic, which has yet to be found as living tissue yet is organic none the less.

So yes, it's possible to be 55% bio mechanical and still only have one metal part or none at all...how did we get on this topic? I kind of skipped from page 700 something just to rant on Dragon Ball Super, which I haven't actually watched yet(still waiting on Resurrection F to get here)

And speaking of rant, why is the Red Pants guy with the Time Breakers? I was pretty sure that didn't happen until the Bad Future...badder future. And why would Trunks turn Super Saiyan 3? Isn't the average time patrolman supposed to have a power level of 100,000?(for reference, Freeza's weakest form was 530,000) What could Trunks, who was way passed that mark when he first appeared and so strong by the time he left that not even the mass produced Android 16s fielded by the Red Pants should give him much trouble, have possibly fought to push him that far? Not even sure Cell-X or Miira would be much challenge to him at SS3, seeing how a few plain old Super Saiyans could get the job done in Dragon Ball Online.

edited 18th Jul '15 5:35:38 AM by IndirectActiveTransport

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21166: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:32:45 AM

Goku got to SS3 without anything to push him that far. Trunks could have just been training.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#21167: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:32:56 AM

Actually, if Mira's powerlevel in Xenoverse is anything to go by, Trunks would probably need SSJ 3 to face off against him. Mira utterly trounced Trunks as a Super Saiyan when they fought and, in fact, Trunks couldn't even harm Mira at all. And Xenoverse takes place before Online's timeline, IINM, which means Mira would have already recovered and become even stronger since the time he got nearly killed in Year 850.

edited 18th Jul '15 5:34:02 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21168: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:39:09 AM

...So Dragon Ball Heroes still doesn't have a Super Saiyan version of a female character yet?

No Super Saiyan Pan, or Super Saiyan Gine, or Super Saiyan Fasha?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#21169: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:43:51 AM

The closest you get is the Saiyan Heroine.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#21170: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:47:28 AM

I mean, that's nice and all, but.

When we literally have a version of Gohan from a fanfic.

...I don't think it's enough?

edited 18th Jul '15 5:52:49 AM by unnoun

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#21171: Jul 18th 2015 at 5:54:23 AM

They're too busy making Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Bardock (Scouter) and Stabbed Yamcha.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#21172: Jul 18th 2015 at 6:11:14 AM

[up][up] That was a guess on my part, I'd wait for confirmation for that.

Frankly I'd be surprised to see a Gohan that isn't from the future timeline get anything new.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#21173: Jul 18th 2015 at 6:13:36 AM

That Gohan kind of would never get anything new because it'd be out of character for him to get anything new, considering he has no intention of training...

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#21174: Jul 18th 2015 at 6:29:51 AM

Or spend like a minute to become Super Sayian God.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#21175: Jul 18th 2015 at 6:49:19 AM

That would imply he intends to ever have an use for that power - and he doesn't.

Gohan would love nothing more than not having to fight because he's not powerful enough to be relevant.

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