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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20826: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:42:48 PM

Because it pissed everyone right off, and outrage, anger and backlash is the only language that'll ever be heard.

This is why whiny tantrums win where organized resistances fail.

edited 13th Jul '15 5:43:04 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#20827: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:58:46 PM

The state of the DB Franchise before DBE was deplorable. It was being barely kept alive through videogames that, frankly, were not up to par, which were beginning to feel more and more like your average movie licensed game with every iteration. Furthermore, Toriyama wanted nothing to do with DB.

Maybe I'm alone on this but I was pretty satisfied with DB being largely done with. Not that I have anything against Super, Battle of the Gods, and whatever else they've made since, but I just didn't feel that a continuation of dragon ball was really necessary.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#20828: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:12:30 PM

My favorite thing about Evolution is it made Toriyama come back to Dragonball.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20829: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:17:29 PM

Okay, then, you're okay with games being more Ultimate Tenkaichi and Battle of Z instead of more Xenoverse.

Because I'm fairly sure that Xenoverse would not have happened if DBE hadn't shown that we give a shit about Dragon Ball.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#20830: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:20:03 PM

I personally love that more Dragon Ball is being created. Nothing beats the feeling of seeing something completely new.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20831: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:29:11 PM

Huh.

I once joked that evolution was a dead end (wish I could remember that page so I could link to it) but it seems it was nothing more than a speed bump towards something better.

How ironic.

And if I used Ironic wrong, I just want to all to know I don't care.

~Drops a mike~

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20832: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:31:25 PM

"Theeee use of words expressing something other than their literal intention! Now that. Is. Irony!"

- Bender, The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings

edited 13th Jul '15 6:31:55 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20833: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:35:12 PM

The dragonball fanbase always kinda pissed me off with how closed minded it tends to be; it's like everyone has to be this muscle-bound badass. And yes, I don't care what anyone says, Great Saiyaman is the best.

I personally consider that to be a difference in taste. I get that Toriyama has a unique sense of humor and respect that he's free to do what he wants. I just think Great Saiyaman was goofy as hell and was rather contrived. Like Gohan never understood why he was being made fun of, only altered the costume once, and even then it's a poor disguise.

Heck, if he'd just gotten rid of the cape, I'd love the outfit.

There's one scene from that Janemba film I liked though, one of his more badass scenes where the posing totally worked.

Also, in a series where most of the characters are muscle-bound badasses, well... I think it avoided a lot of the things I didn't like about Western superheroes, those silly secret identities, heroes who were immaculate and sharp-chinned. I liked how the heroes transformed, how the entire world might be threatened and there wasn't a "Justice League" to deal with it, how the Z-Fighters fought in their "streets/japanese martial arts clothing". It seemed adverse to typical superhero tropes for a show that was heavy on the action.

So when Z had Gohan dress in a superhero costume, I just groaned.

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20834: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:41:58 PM

Until I came to this thread I just assumed the Saiyaman stuff was filler. Terrible, terrible filler.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#20837: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:45:56 PM

I liked the Great Saiyaman stuff even as a kid because it felt a little like Superman to me.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#20838: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:49:00 PM

That and I loved how dorky Gohan was and how cool he thought he looked.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#20839: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:49:01 PM

One of the best parts about the Great Saiyaman is how it parodies the Superhero genre. As you guys have said, Dragon Ball is SO different to Western superheroes. When they played it straight, they played it realistically. Gohan's dressing up as a superhero...and EVERYONE thinks it looks ridiculous.

edited 13th Jul '15 6:50:02 PM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20840: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:49:52 PM

The Great Saiyaman stuff is hilarious and when I adapt it I will try as hard as I can to make fun of Man of Steel as much as I can.

edited 13th Jul '15 6:50:38 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20841: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:52:02 PM

Wait, what adaption?

[up][up]Fair point.

edited 13th Jul '15 6:52:45 PM by Soble

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20842: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:53:48 PM

I mean, why do people think Superman's tights look cool?

Or Goku's orange pyjamas?

Or Vegeta's Buu Saga leotard?

Or his armor, frankly?

edited 13th Jul '15 6:54:10 PM by unnoun

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20843: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:55:08 PM

[up][up]Go back a page.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20844: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:55:20 PM

Hey.

Don't be knockin' the leotard now.

I'm actually going to make a Dragon Ball live-action franchise that stays 97% accurate to the manga with only some VERY minor changes that people have been wanting anyways like: changing what happens to Boss Rabbit so that it makes more sense, and showing Freeza training for his revenge.[[quoteblock]]

[[quoteblock]]like Bardock the Father of Goku except without the stupid psychic powers, or the History of Trunks Special except done differently (in this version, Trunks turns Super Saiyan in response to Gohan getting his arm ripped off).

Everything else, sure. These?

Boss Rabbit doesn't need a dose of a realism when the main character gets shot in the head in the 1st chapter and rubs it off.

Freeza dies, he doesn't need to train. He doesn't need to come back. Revenge of F is being overtaken by Super anyway.

Those psychic powers are what made the Bardock film, its the tragedy that Bardock sees his end and what his son will become, and his defiance/acceptance of those things that make the character so well-received. Or, his "badass Goku/Turtles" look, I'm not sure which.

Emotional impact is probably a lot higher when you see your mentor and best friend dead before you, opposed to just seeing him get his arm torn off.

edited 13th Jul '15 7:21:08 PM by Soble

I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#20845: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:32:56 PM

At least in my opinion, the best way to make a live-action Dragon Ball film series is to keep the characters and settings the same, but to change up the storyline a little bit. Also by replacing training with strategy. Like, having the reason Vegeta lost against Zarbon the first time because he wasn't expecting a transformation. So the next time they fought, Vegeta was prepared and was able to win. As opposed to just 'he won because he got a Zenkai boost'.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20846: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:33:54 PM

My face will not be shut.

It will if my five fingers ask it a question.

Nobody mocks the Great Saiyaman. Ever.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20847: Jul 13th 2015 at 8:35:05 PM

[up][up][up]I was just going to have Boss Rabbit be sent to a moon-themed prison with a community service program that involved making toys for children In regards to Resurrection F, I'm banking on the idea that Super will still include some version of it with my version of those events being a combination of Battle of Gods and Resurrection F although I'm undecided and will change my mind if Super does something different. In regards to Bardock and Future Trunks: I think that the Psychic powers is one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and essentially my version will be a combination of Bardock: Father of Goku, Dragon Ball Minus, Vegeta's flashback to Beerus meeting King Vegeta, Tarble's birth, and Beerus' meeting with Freeza. In regards to Future Trunks I like the manga's take better and I want SS 1 Trunks training with Gohan though I will take inspiration from the Special.

edited 13th Jul '15 8:36:18 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#20848: Jul 13th 2015 at 8:56:33 PM

Okay, then, you're okay with games being more Ultimate Tenkaichi and Battle of Z instead of more Xenoverse. Because I'm fairly sure that Xenoverse would not have happened if DBE hadn't shown that we give a shit about Dragon Ball.

i was talking about the franchise continuing in general, dude. i don't even play dragon ball games lol. i mean if i end up enjoying super and all the other stuff they've made since then it's a moot point, i was just saying that i wasn't exactly starving for new dragon ball content.

edited 13th Jul '15 8:59:55 PM by wehrmacht

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#20849: Jul 13th 2015 at 9:02:23 PM

What game was that where Cell accidentally absorbs Krillin?

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