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#20801: Jul 13th 2015 at 12:31:58 PM

A Tsundere is someone that acts like they don't want to do something, but secretly do, basically.

Vegeta doesn't want to spend family time, and even ditches them later. Vegeta doesn't want to show affection, and keeps his distance because of that. Vegeta, however, does care about Bulma and Trunks, so he goes along with their annoyances out of that love he has for them.

That isn't Tsundere. That's called being 3-dimensional, and is something the fandom doesn't seem to be able to grok.

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#20802: Jul 13th 2015 at 1:27:20 PM

To be honest, Vegeta begrudgingly doing things he doesn't want to do out of care is hilariously in-character for him.

And hell, Vegeta was mostly embarrassed that Goku decided to make fun of the fact that he does care. Vegeta's reaction is just trying to save face...failing.

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#20803: Jul 13th 2015 at 2:45:20 PM

A Tsundere is simple to understand.

It's not "acting like they hate something but secretly liking it", it's "Acting vicious but being secretly sweet", though there's also the reverse, acting all sweet and shit but secretly being a total bitch.

Let's go to the most well recognized Tsundere out there, Tohsaka Rin. She's solely Tsun Tsun towards Shirou, the object of her affections. To everyone else, she is the somewhat aloof but good natured school idol. The only people who know how much of a bitch she really is are Shirou (who is, well, Shirou) and Issei (who actually just kind of assumes she's a total bitch beneath the façade and probably isn't aware he's actually right about her).

This is a Tsundere. Someone who acts one way, but actually is another. Rin's a very Tsun Tsun girl, but she acts Dere Dere to keep up a certain image.

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#20804: Jul 13th 2015 at 2:49:35 PM

What the fuck was even the point of that stupidoom tumblr post? It was just a collection of Vegeta pictures, calling him a nerd, and rambling on about how much smarter she is than Toriyama.

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#20806: Jul 13th 2015 at 2:54:53 PM

[up][up][up] She's also deredere towards Shirou on occasions like basically all of the final episode of the UBW anime and various moments in the story proper.

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#20807: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:03:49 PM

Here's something that's probably never been discussed in this thread, things you actually liked about Dragon Ball Evolution.

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#20808: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:04:43 PM

My favorite part of Dragon Ball Evolution was leaving the theater.

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#20812: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:22:49 PM

Uh....uhh.....uhh....

We got to see someone use a Kamehameha in live-action? I mean, it looked all wrong, and acted all wrong, but...

I guess....I liked how they tried to make Goku relatable? Even if that was beating the entire point of Goku?

I don't know.

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#20813: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:23:52 PM

I found it hilarious when they desperately tried to hedge their bets with the young, hip Western audience by calling the Kamehameha "airbending."

edited 13th Jul '15 3:24:05 PM by TobiasDrake

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#20814: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:26:42 PM

My personal favorite theory on the origin of Gohan's Great Saiyaman was that Frog Ginyu taught him.

I mean, it's not like he has much else to do being a frog and all, so why not train this kid to be a flashy sentai warrior?

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#20815: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:28:29 PM

Flaw in that theory: Ginyu would steal Gohan's body.

If we're accepting the premise based on the filler in which Frog Ginyu made it to Earth, then we also have to accept the filler in which he was shown to still be able to Body Change as a frog, using it on Bulma in an effort to escape his predicament.

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#20816: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:30:01 PM

Didn't the filler where he stole Bulma's body only happen because she made a translator that let him speak, or something like that?

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#20817: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:30:35 PM

Did it? I only vaguely remember some of the filler arcs. <.<

If so, objection withdrawn.

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#20818: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:31:26 PM

The PSP game.

Really? It looked like a bad Shin Budokai game to me.

edited 13th Jul '15 3:31:34 PM by VeryMelon

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#20819: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:33:15 PM

My favorite thing about Evolution? Team Four Star's rifftrax of it. If not that then the fact that Toriyama made Battle of Gods fun specifically to make up for it.

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#20820: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:34:38 PM

To be fair, that just means it looks like a PSP game.

(Seriously, that thing is only slightly less powerful than the PS 2, which could push out Gran Turismo 4 at 1080p and I'm not even shitting you, how come PSP graphics are usually so... terrible?)

Say what you will about Dragon Ball Evolution... it did resurrect a zombie franchise.

edited 13th Jul '15 3:35:12 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#20821: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:34:44 PM

The worst thing about Evolution is it's ruined the idea of live-action Dragon Ball forever. Marvel has taught me that no matter how unusual the source material is, you can still make a good movie out of it.

But now, if anyone ever thinks of giving Dragon Ball the MCU treatment, someone will protest with how bad Evolution was (and how poorly it fared at the box office).

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#20823: Jul 13th 2015 at 4:58:39 PM

I'm actually going to make a Dragon Ball live-action franchise that stays 97% accurate to the manga with only some VERY minor changes that people have been wanting anyways like: giving the humans Kaio-Ken, changing what happens to Boss Rabbit so that it makes more sense, showing Dr. Gero while Goku beats up the Red Ribbon Army, and showing Freeza training for his revenge. Along with things no one asked for but would be cool anyway like an hour-long animated special in the special features of each DVD and Blu-Ray that shows the various backstories of the characters relevant to the movie, like Bardock the Father of Goku except without the stupid psychic powers, or the History of Trunks Special except done differently (in this version, Trunks turns Super Saiyan in response to Gohan getting his arm ripped off).

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#20824: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:28:07 PM

[up][up]Au contraire.

The state of the DB Franchise before DBE was deplorable. It was being barely kept alive through videogames that, frankly, were not up to par, which were beginning to feel more and more like your average movie licensed game with every iteration. Furthermore, Toriyama wanted nothing to do with DB.

For all its flaws, DBE did one thing right:

It showed the world that there is a fucking audience for DB, and more importantly, it showed that we do actually give a fuck, and it reminded people that with a little effort, Dragon Ball can sell and sell well.

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