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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#20751: Jul 12th 2015 at 9:05:57 PM

Chi-Chi is likely the most normal member of the cast (though by Real Life standards she'd still be superhuman, obviously). I agree with Drake when she said she doesn't really comprehend any of this. And honestly? She's sort of right. Six-year-old boys shouldn't skive off their education to go fight alien warlords. tongue

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#20752: Jul 12th 2015 at 9:07:29 PM

But at the same time, if the world is destroyed, who gives a shit how well Gohan can do his times tables??

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#20753: Jul 12th 2015 at 9:08:14 PM

[up] Frieza wasn't even coming to Earth originally, was he?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20754: Jul 12th 2015 at 9:10:16 PM

[up]No; by the same token they never actually expect or had reason to think that Namek would be dangerous.

edited 12th Jul '15 9:10:50 PM by LSBK

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#20755: Jul 12th 2015 at 9:28:27 PM

Because clearly there's no other reason to hate Chi-Chi than because she's a woman.

I'll admit, I used to be like that years ago when I was on this exact forum, but I looked at myself and I had to grow the fuck up and realize that people have different opinions of characters and stuff.

Some Chi-Chi hate veers into sexism, but it's not always the case.

Agreed! Like I've said, I've seen some female fans of this show act like this to Chi-Chi and some female characters of this show too. Also, Dragonball Z is a shounen anime, so you can expect this type of behavior in the fan base.

My only gripe with the Chi-Chi hate is how some fans make the other characters come off as delicate saints compared to her, despite the fact they they can be far worse than Chi-Chi in some aspects. Yes I understand Chi-Chi is annoying and can be selfish, but she isn't on the same level as any of the villains on the show.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#20756: Jul 12th 2015 at 10:35:47 PM

Don't use the villains as examples, that doesn't work...Most villain are likeable because of how unlikeable they are.

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#20757: Jul 12th 2015 at 11:05:51 PM

[up]That's the point. It's just that fans say her motives make her a worse person than they are, not character.

edited 12th Jul '15 11:06:23 PM by MsCC93

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#20758: Jul 13th 2015 at 3:57:45 AM

Those people also forget that Goku let Vegeta live, potentially dooming the world, because he wanted to fight Vegeta again.

All the characters in Dragonball are deeply flawed people, and Chichi is just one more in the count.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20759: Jul 13th 2015 at 4:15:18 AM

Because clearly there's no other reason to hate Chi-Chi than because she's a woman. And we're all eeeeeeeevil penis demons for not understanding her poor, reasonable, not-at-all-annoying plight.

...Please don't do that.

And the thing is that there's a bit of a trend in fandom where female characters tend to not get cut nearly as much slack as male characters.

Where male characters tend to get embraced and cherished for their various flaws and foibles, female characters tend to be vilified for those same flaws.

From my perspective? I feel like Chichi's character could have gone in a different direction after Piccolo Jr. than it did.

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#20760: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:09:31 AM

Generally, the worst Chi-Chi bashing comes from the people who blame her for how Gohan turned out. Quite a few people seem to believe that the only reason Gohan became a scholar was because Chi-Chi forced him to, somehow. Which isn't true. At all.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#20761: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:19:56 AM

That actually might be true seeing as she continually forced him to study when he didn't want to and he never showed an actual interest in it.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20762: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:20:44 AM

Well... Gohan was pretty gung-ho about training, wasn't he?

There's nothing saying he wouldn't have become a scholar. The bad future just showed Gohan being what he needed to be to fight the androids. That said, parents influence their children, and Chi-Chi was always struggling to make sure Gohan studied.

There's nothing wrong with that either. So Gohan didn't become "badass, eye-scar future Gohan". While I like the tragedy of that character, I don't see the fascination fans have with him. Instead, Gohan becomes an educated, married man.

Oh Chi Chi, what did you do to your son.

I really can't blame the Great Saiyaman costume or Gohan's adherence to it on Chi-Chi, the first was Bulma's fault.

edited 13th Jul '15 5:21:34 AM by Soble

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#20763: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:22:58 AM

Great Saiyaman is the best Gohan tho

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20765: Jul 13th 2015 at 5:32:07 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#20766: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:20:23 AM

The dragonball fanbase always kinda pissed me off with how closed minded it tends to be; it's like everyone has to be this muscle-bound badass.

And yes, I don't care what anyone says, Great Saiyaman is the best.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20767: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:37:27 AM

Oh my god, we're still on this?

I wouldn't hate Chi-Chi as much if she actually had a character beyond "Gohan's studies are more important than absolutely everything else!" and if she hadn't been an absolutely bitch after they fought Vegeta.

I'm not saying all the other characters are saints. I'm not saying they're not flawed. I'm saying that they have parts of their personalities that I actually like while I can find absolutely nothing about Chi-Chi that is likable.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20768: Jul 13th 2015 at 6:57:46 AM

Is that really Chichi's fault? Or is it Toriyama's?

edited 13th Jul '15 7:03:19 AM by unnoun

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#20769: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:02:52 AM

Sometimes I get the impression that you guys spend most time just whining talking about the same 3-4 topics over and over again. :/

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20770: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:03:35 AM

We do. I hate it just as much as you do.

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#20771: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:04:21 AM

[up]x12 I agree 110%. Basically two characters can do the same thing, both horrible and deplorable actions yet only one of them is despised due to not having a Y chromosome. An example I can think of right now is Fruits Basket. But that's another debate...

edited 13th Jul '15 7:04:54 AM by LLSmoothJ

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20772: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:04:35 AM

I mean, he managed to make a genocidal troll doll on a 24/7 ego trip likable.

Just 'saiyan.

...On another note, I tried thinking of an alternate story where Chichi stayed a fighter for longer and I'm struggling to imagine what joke she'd tell to King Kai.

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#20773: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:07:10 AM

[up][up][up]Someone call me when we start talking about how much humans got shafted.

Cross (Don’t ask)
#20774: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:07:57 AM

[up][up]"How do you keep an idiot in suspense?"

edited 13th Jul '15 7:08:15 AM by Cross

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#20775: Jul 13th 2015 at 7:18:41 AM

Man,Namekians sure get shafted in Dragonball.

edited 13th Jul '15 7:18:58 AM by alekos23


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