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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20651: Jul 11th 2015 at 2:55:31 PM

Didn't Roshi's strength still increase during Dragon Ball?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20652: Jul 11th 2015 at 2:58:43 PM

Not that I know of.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20653: Jul 11th 2015 at 3:02:14 PM

I seem to recall seeing the official power levels from the Dragon Ball saga, and Roshi's power was steadily increasing like everyone else's.

I could be mistaken though.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
wehrmacht belongs to the hurricane from the garden of everything Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
belongs to the hurricane
#20654: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:05:18 PM

Has anyone here Jaco, by any chance? I'm assuming most of you have but I just finished it now.

I liked it a lot more than I expected, honestly. I especially enjoyed how it's actually a prequel to Dragon Ball to the point where it ties into it very explicitly in the bonus chapters. I've read that Toriyama doesn't have any high artistic pretensions when creating manga and just wants to create entertaining stories, and to be honest I think he's damn good at it, even now after all this time. I felt similarly when I finished reading Sandland a few years ago.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#20655: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:11:38 PM

No, I haven't Jaco. What's it like?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20656: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:15:47 PM

[up][up]

I don't know much about Jaco, but I do know they are gonna have to explain the lack of Pants.

.......

I'm not changing what I wrote.cool

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20657: Jul 11th 2015 at 4:53:50 PM

Interesting Note:

The reason Vegeta didn't already know how to sense ki and hide his powerlevel was because he didn't even know it was possible for anyone other than Freeza, who transformed to do so. It didn't take him long to learn it once he learned it was actually a thing that could be done.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20658: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:29:58 PM

Dear TV Tropes [[youtube:v=NSesTUKEYEs]] Yamcha aint weak.

EDIT: What did I do wrong?

edited 11th Jul '15 6:30:53 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#20659: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:31:47 PM

The embedding is just broken right now.

My various fanfics.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20660: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:32:48 PM

Than how do I link?

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#20661: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:40:02 PM

Just put the url in the double brackets. [[]]

My various fanfics.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#20662: Jul 11th 2015 at 6:46:02 PM

EDIT: Goddammit, just go watch Super Saiyan 3 Broly Vs. Yamcha on Thundershot69's channel

edited 11th Jul '15 6:48:53 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#20664: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:12:31 PM

Anyone can get stronger. You just need the right in-story handwave. Stuff like "he learned a technique that multiplies the normal limitations of his body's abilities and senses" or "his anger unlocked a legendary hidden power" or "he got his ass kicked" or "he trained for 4 months". Anything works, really.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:13:07 PM by Enlong

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#20665: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:15:14 PM

"He ate the Super Senzu Beans"

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20666: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:36:18 PM

Here's a thought:

If Saiyans can learn to control themselves while in the Oozaru state, do you think it's possible for them to control whether they transform in the first place?

I mean, it's never come up, and there's probably never been a situation where they didn't want to transform, but if there was....

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20667: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:38:52 PM

I don't think so, it's an involuntary, biological reaction. Learning to not lose consciousness and not transforming at all sound like entirely different animals.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20668: Jul 11th 2015 at 7:46:01 PM

Biofeedback is a thing. With enough training, a Saiyan could likely learn to repress the Oozaru transformation, or even trigger it at will.

edited 11th Jul '15 7:46:28 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20669: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:07:38 PM

You're basing that on what we know of biology.

This is an alien that transforms from sunlight but only when it is reflected by the moon, becoming several times its own size, and only if they have one of their appendages, which grows back when amputated except it sometimes doesn't.

Saiyan Biology does not make a lick of sense.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#20670: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:08:40 PM

So?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#20671: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:11:21 PM

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See your point, but since Saiyan Biology doesn't follow logic, there's nothing to really say they can't control it either.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#20672: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:14:39 PM

In this episode of Dragon Ball Super...

Vegeta: "I had fun once. It was awful."

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20673: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:18:35 PM

Saiyans transform from seeing the glowing moon. It's a visual trigger that can be replicated via fake moons, other celestial bodies... So there's some kind of mental state involved.

In theory, it should be possible to induce that through will and physiological control alone. It probably requires the tail, though.

edited 11th Jul '15 8:19:05 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20674: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:20:42 PM

There's no mental part involved. The light wave needs to be changed by being reflected and that can be done by being reflected on anything, the moon is just the easiest and most natural way of doing it.

edited 11th Jul '15 8:21:35 PM by LSBK

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#20675: Jul 11th 2015 at 8:23:35 PM

I forget, do we know who removed Vegeta's tail?


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