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#2001: Mar 31st 2013 at 2:26:43 AM

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use "Bejita". Like, ever.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2002: Mar 31st 2013 at 3:05:48 AM

I have. There are some really hardcore purist DB fans.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2003: Mar 31st 2013 at 6:15:44 AM

@Nik Oh, you're right, I think he might not say it in the manga either (but in both cases the aura is clear enough).

[up][up][up][up] The only way to render it is Tenshinhan, which Viz uses. Tien was just an invention of the dub.

[up][up] I have. Along with Seru and so on. Even worse, I've seen people use Vegeta but then call Vegetto "Bejitto" because consistency is overrated apparently.

I use the original names for pretty much everything, but I used proper romanizations instead of completely literal ones like Bejita and Torankusu. Also used future Trunks instead of Mirai because I don't think "future" should be a proper noun, and I only leave proper nouns untranslated. I don't like using the dub names because in same cases they're just not accurate, like Tri-Beam or Destructo Disc.

edited 31st Mar '13 6:16:20 AM by Saiga

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#2004: Mar 31st 2013 at 11:15:11 AM

I use dub names because that's what I grew up with. That reason is also why I think Destructo-Disk and Tri-Beam are cool names.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#2005: Mar 31st 2013 at 12:04:38 PM

So, if the plot summary on the wikipedia page isn't false, did they just go multiversal on us?

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2006: Mar 31st 2013 at 1:40:28 PM

I just use the dub names because it's easier for me to think in those terms.

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2007: Mar 31st 2013 at 2:07:04 PM

Destructo Disk is lame but I don't mind Tri-Beam.

Speaking of which, anybody ever notice that the "it will drain your life away and kill you" stuff about the move got forgotten after the 22nd Tournament? (there's another word I don't mind using even if 99% of people use Budokai)

Then again...was the move's cost why he died against Nappa? Or was it just he was too drained and wounded and using a powerful blast killed him?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2008: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:40:01 PM

[up] How was it forgotten? Using it at one time won't kill you, and he's used it on only four occasions. The first two times he has fine, second time he died immediately after and it's ambiguous what killed him, and the third time he spammed it and nearly died.

[up][up][up] Probably not. They said their is 12 universes, which doesn't fit the multiverse theory. It's probably 12 completely separate things, like a Universe with completely different planets and races.

edited 31st Mar '13 4:41:13 PM by Saiga

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#2009: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:40:29 PM

I figured the move he used against Nappa was a one handed version, the cartoon even used the same lightning effect (one of TOEI's moments of not sucking) and using the move on Cell was also supposedly draining him.

Anyway, battle of the gods sounds more like an episode than stand alone film, even if it is only a one shot. The new types of gods and new cosmology sound like they could have some frightening implications.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#2010: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:41:57 PM

Boy does the Battle of the Gods put Kaioshins in even worse light.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2011: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:47:00 PM

So, is this Whis guy supposed to be the most broken character in the history of the franchise or something? I mean, if he's stronger than the guy who's stronger than the "God Saiyan"...

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2012: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:49:35 PM

Well, Beers was called "the strongest being in Z" and only used 70% of his power to beat God Goku. And Whis is stronger than that.

So yes. Eat it, Vegetto.

But that doesn't include GT characters, who are likely far stronger. Only Z.

edited 31st Mar '13 4:50:18 PM by Saiga

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2013: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:52:41 PM

[up] I wouldn't be so sure of that; "God Saiyan" sure sounds stronger than anything in GT. Sheesh, Whis must be Index-level overpowered...

Honestly both these guys sound like bad fanfiction characters to me.

edited 31st Mar '13 4:53:14 PM by HamburgerTime

CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#2014: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:54:17 PM

This movie's plot seems to be so ridiculous it seems one can enjoy it more as comedy or parody how power levels escalate too quickly within the canon.

PS. Still, Ggiorna Ggiovanna with Gold Experience Requiem solos those two wink

edited 31st Mar '13 4:55:27 PM by CaptainKatsura

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2015: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:57:07 PM

I wonder if Super Saiyan God Vegetto would be stronger than them.

[up][up]I'm just going to assume it's Super Saiyan 5 under another name.

edited 31st Mar '13 4:57:46 PM by Kostya

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2016: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:57:11 PM

[up][up][up] Kami would like a word with you. He's only BP 220. Just saying "God" does not make something stronger, and nobody in BoG has shown anything to put them up with GT characters.

[up][up] Considering the original script by Watanabe was supposed to be Grimdark and completely serious, I think the escalation of powers was meant to be taken seriously as well.tongue

"Fanfiction" is the best way to describe the ideas in this movie.

edited 31st Mar '13 4:59:02 PM by Saiga

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#2017: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:58:41 PM

GT had silly power escalation. Base Goku fighting with someone stronger than buu?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2018: Mar 31st 2013 at 4:59:43 PM

And also oneshotting Super Saiyan Goten and Gohan in base. Which was pointed out that Gohan was stronger than he was in Z because he actually started training.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2019: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:00:22 PM

@ Katsura: I still find it weird the Androids were (apparently) stronger than Frieza, though as has been pointed out this is mostly due to Frieza being so far above everyone else (ten times better than the next best guy in his army in his base form , was it?) that anyone being above him thus seems unbelievable.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#2020: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:01:24 PM

There was also the part where he toyed with Super Perfect Cell.

So yeah, silly power escalation.

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2021: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:01:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]I forgot that part. Geez, and I thought him being as strong as Frieza in base form was ridiculous.

edited 31st Mar '13 5:01:39 PM by Kostya

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2022: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:01:26 PM

To quote someone from another forum: "I always find it fascinating that many fans have no problem accepting that random aliens can be zillions of times stronger than the gods, but unable to accept random androids being stronger than random aliens".

[up][up] And then in base he overpowered Super 17 who had just beat down SS4 Goku.

And then he did the same thing to Omega Shenron, who was desperately trying to kill base Goku but couldn't even scratch him. It seems that for GT Goku, his base form becomes stronger than his previous strongest power right at the end of every battle (this is even implied earlier when base Goku becomes stronger than his previous Super Saiyan form just because).

edited 31st Mar '13 5:03:27 PM by Saiga

Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2023: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:02:34 PM

[up]Kami was not born a god though. He was promoted to the position. In my mind it makes sense for him to be rather weak in the grand scheme of things.

edit: Also they're Androids that use humans as a base. I'd imagine that would diminish their power quite a bit due to humans being one of the weakest species in the universe. If they were alien androids like Frieza it would make more sense.

edited 31st Mar '13 5:03:31 PM by Kostya

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2024: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:03:15 PM

Fine then. Kaio, Kaioshin, etc...

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#2025: Mar 31st 2013 at 5:03:19 PM

I just found it funny how Gero busted the tech needed to make them so strong out of his ass.

[up][up][up]GT Goku was as strong as he needed to be.

edited 31st Mar '13 5:04:20 PM by Shlugo_the_great


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