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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20126: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:14:35 PM

I like the concept of a Death Battle and I think that what they do isn't inherently wrong. For the most part, they compare abilities that characters have demonstrated and say who would win a fight based on that.

I like the one in which Rogue beat Wonder Woman, not because she was stronger (in fact, Wondie was stronger), but because Wonder Woman's outfit has a fatal flaw when fighting Rogue, that being that Rogue can eat your powers through skin to skin contact.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#20127: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:19:23 PM

I think they need to be more upfront about how it's mostly just speculation. They do lots of research, but that won't give a definitive answer in a lot of cases.

Their rules are also pretty arbitrary and poorly upheld, especially what they consider to be outside help.

I have enjoyed some of their battles, but a lot of them are extremely questionable.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20128: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:39:28 PM

I can agree with that, at least.

They've also had some pretty big research failures, like claiming that going SSJ only multiplies Vegeta's power by ten times instead of fifty.

In the end... I still think they're nowhere near as bad as the guys making calculations about how strong the Naruto characters are.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#20129: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:42:15 PM

Actually, they said Super Saiyan was a 500% boost, which would have been a 5x boost.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20130: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:45:31 PM

Did they? then I'm probably thinking SSJ 2. Either way, it's just so incredibly wrong it's frikkin' hilarious, and it's a totally made up figure.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#20131: Jul 1st 2015 at 9:58:48 PM

Not that underselling Vegeta's power helped Shadow any.

even though he should've teleported Vegeta into the vacuum of space, but nevermind

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#20132: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:00:02 PM

They undersold his power in the Super Saiyan multiplier, but also had him perform ridiculous feats in the fight itself. Whole thing was a mess.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20133: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:03:03 PM

I think a lot of the reasoning in Death Battle is idiotic. Like "OMG guiz Kirby can tank a planetary exposion to the faec unharmd becas the ending cutseen has a big flash and then Kirby sent flying like cartoon!!!1!11!1"

Sometimes the fights are well-animated, but they run on those aforementioned presumptions.

edited 1st Jul '15 10:04:31 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#20134: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:05:22 PM

I despise the whole "This person is so stupid it can only be expressed by exceedingly poor spelling" thing.

I have a message from another time...
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20135: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:14:31 PM

The Buu VS Kirby fight was such bullshit.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#20136: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:25:20 PM

Not as much as Ragna vs. Sol.

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#20137: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:25:20 PM

Up until the end, it made a lot of sense. It, amusingly enough, showed that nothing in Kirby's usual arsenal is capable of the sort of full-body atomization needed to kill Buu outright.

And yes, there is assuredly precedent for Kirby using Supernova to suck in a massive energy blast and spit it right back. But that makes it amusing, as it no longer is "can Kirby kill Buu", but rather "Can Buu kill Buu".

Which I'm not entirely sure of the answer. Buu's tanked his own planet busters by regenerating after the planet blew up, for example. I'd say the only reason the battle would be a KO is that they had him fly into the sun, which i suppose would work.

Buuut that's such a specific set of events (Buu shooting at Kirby directly instead of at a random point on the planet, Buu taking the reflected hit, and the battle taking place at daytime) that I question how it fit their whole "it's a representation of who would win the most times in various circumstances" setup.

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#20138: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:39:06 PM

Something I thought about.

What if Future Gohan and Trunks had used the Hyperbolic Time Chamber to prepare for the Androids?

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20139: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:49:43 PM

They would've beat the Androids and probably killed Imperfect Cell as soon as he made his existence apparent.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#20140: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:50:45 PM

Yeah, sounds about right. I'm more curious if they could've withstood it.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20141: Jul 1st 2015 at 10:53:57 PM

Gohan could withstand it at a powerlevel that had to be much lower than Future Gohan and Future Trunks had before Gohan's death.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#20142: Jul 1st 2015 at 11:24:07 PM

My headcanon about the future timeline was that Gohan was weaker because he subconsciously believed there wasn't anything stronger than a Super Saiyan. So he didn't believe he could get strong enough.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20143: Jul 2nd 2015 at 12:14:40 AM

It's not a matter of whether Kirby could finish Buu off or not. It shouldn't have gotten that far.

Kirby can die from walking into a Waddle Dee six times. Or being instantly killed by a closing wall. Even if we're generous and ignore video game trappings like contact damage, he still takes severe damage from all sorts of mundane attacks from mundane creatures. He shouldn't be able to survive even one hit from a planet-buster like Buu.

edited 2nd Jul '15 12:16:04 AM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#20144: Jul 2nd 2015 at 12:27:14 AM

As a counterargument though, Kirby can take a hit from a black hole and then still take one hit of damage from his health bar. Basically, inconsistencies.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#20145: Jul 2nd 2015 at 12:27:44 AM

Granted, Kirby also takes the same amount of damage when thrown into a black hole, so...

[nja]

edited 2nd Jul '15 12:27:56 AM by Ssj3Gojira

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20146: Jul 2nd 2015 at 12:28:28 AM

If you mean Marx's attack, it's not a literal black hole, just a vortex-y attack, and that deducts a whole third of Kirby's health anyway, not "one hit".

Incidentally, getting stabbed in the face by Galacta Knight takes off half. The lance is mightier than the black hole.

edited 2nd Jul '15 12:29:10 AM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#20147: Jul 2nd 2015 at 12:34:55 AM

Maybe Waddle Dees are stupidly strong.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20148: Jul 2nd 2015 at 1:22:33 AM

That's the same reasoning that had a guy claiming that the characters in Naruto were able to beat Vegeta and Nappa because they were a hundred feet tall compared to them, dood.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#20150: Jul 2nd 2015 at 3:36:28 AM

New DBH commercial showing off new SSJG Goku and Beerus cards, SSJ Time Patrol Bardock and the Supreme Kai Avatars:


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