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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#20001: Jun 30th 2015 at 3:56:49 PM

For the exact same reason that we shouldn't have a thread for the abridged series.

Because this isn't a super huge, super massive thread that goes at a thousand pages a minute in which we couldn't possibly carry a conversation.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#20002: Jun 30th 2015 at 4:01:39 PM

But the abridged thread is its own "thing". And it's quite huge and active from what I can see.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20003: Jun 30th 2015 at 4:04:24 PM

Yeah but there's a lot of cross over. And it used to be common for both to get derailed by conversations that should have been in the other, though that's toned down. Really it should be more acceptable to talk about the real series in the abridged thread than vice versa.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#20004: Jun 30th 2015 at 4:08:11 PM

Just because it is doesn't mean it should be.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#20005: Jun 30th 2015 at 4:09:57 PM

Abridged should have its own thread, yeah. This is for discussing the actual, original manga/anime. Abridged thread is both the Abridged show and the general community around it (Their other videos, for example).

Super can stick here, though, since it's not like there's anything else new to talk about here.

edited 30th Jun '15 4:10:25 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#20006: Jun 30th 2015 at 4:56:34 PM

Cutey Honey Is also a classic Shonen and one that Kill La Kill borrows heavily from.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#20007: Jun 30th 2015 at 7:33:14 PM

You kids and thinking Freeza's fight was long, why back in my day, we had to wait every single day to watch the end of dat dere fight. Was a fight of the ages it was.

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#20008: Jun 30th 2015 at 7:43:07 PM

If a character is no longer relevant, I see no reason to keep them around.

If I was Toriyama I'd just have them stay dead through some bullshit plot reasons.

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#20009: Jun 30th 2015 at 7:49:23 PM

So Piccolo, Krillin, 18, Tien, Chiazou, Chi-Chi, Roshi, Bulma, Oolong, Popo, Dende and whoever else I'm forgetting who isn't a Saiyan should just be gotten rid of?

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#20010: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:24:58 PM

Bulma, Piccolo, Krillin, Popo and Dende are entirely relevant. You can be relevant without having a high power level, as that bunch shows.

The thing is, Ten completed his character arc before Z came around, and has nothing but strength to contribute (which isn't needed since he's outclassed). He could've just flown off into the sunset and never be seen again. Literally nothing about the story would change.

Let's not even pretend Chaozu is a character.

17 and 18 only wanted to have fun, so there's no reason more couldn't be done with those 2, but there's also no reason something had to be done with those 2.

edited 30th Jun '15 8:26:05 PM by Cruherrx

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#20011: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:27:31 PM

Chaozu got kicked off even before the Z portion started: he Worfed to Tao, who Goku beat long ago.

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#20012: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:34:30 PM

@Cru: At the very fucking least give them a satisfying send off or something. I don't mind characters being written out, but don't just get rid of them because you can't be assed to come up with something.

And honestly, you can have such a large cast contribute something, even if its minor just by changing the focus of the narrative a tad. The reason why so many characters are superfluous to Dragon Ball is because its so constrained by fighting. Like, what's the point of having someone like Tien around when Goku is like a million times stronger. Its just the lack of Character Speciation that really irks the hell out of me.

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#20013: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:41:23 PM

Characters have been superfluous even before the focus of Dragon Ball became around fighting. Remember Puar? Now, did Puar do one thing of note that only he could do? He cut off Oozaru Goku's tail. And that's about it.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#20014: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:48:40 PM

Dragon Ball actually sidesteps the issue by having Goku get taken out of the action by circumstances he can't overcome, like being late to Namek because he was bedridden or being, y'know, dead.

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#20015: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:49:46 PM

You see, Puar was never once a major character though, she's always just been an accessory to Yamcha, so nobody cares about her.

That's why I used Tien as an example, a for character who had much prominence before being thrown to the wayside.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#20016: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:50:19 PM

That's something I've noticed as well. When you think about it, Goku gets relatively little development in the Z portion next to his sons, Vegeta, Krillin, and Piccolo.

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#20017: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:52:42 PM

Goku gets quite a bit of development in Dragon Ball, though, so that's something. Krillin also get a lot in his first appearance.

Really, the only characters that develop in Z are Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta.

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#20018: Jun 30th 2015 at 8:53:46 PM

Krillin, along with Gohan, is basically the main character for a not-small portion of Namek.

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#20019: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:06:13 PM

You know what they should have done? Let Bulma do something on Namek. Seriously, hearing her constantly whining about being left behind made me wonder why DIDN'T she do anything?

Like, for example, what if Raditz's scouter hadn't been broken by trying to read Goku's power level during the fight with Vegeta, and she brought it to Namek with them? That way, she'd be the only one with a scouter once all the others were destroyed.

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#20020: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:20:11 PM

There really wasn't a whole lot she could do honestly. All of the technology on that planet was out of her league.

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#20021: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:28:41 PM

Clip from the dub.

edited 30th Jun '15 9:29:45 PM by LordofLore

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#20022: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:43:45 PM

Man.

It says a lot about how much Yamcha sucks that they decided Master Roshi would be more useful in that final battle.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#20023: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:45:51 PM

Not really. Yamcha being there would have been ridiculous. Roshi being there is more ridiculous.

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#20024: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:47:26 PM

I still don't understand why they brought back Roshi. Is he really popular, or something?

[up][up][up][up] She fixed Raditz's scouter, and her father managed to reverse-engineer Goku's spaceship. I doubt there would be much that was too beyond her league.

edited 30th Jun '15 9:50:08 PM by LOLypop1224

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#20025: Jun 30th 2015 at 9:48:19 PM

Something something nostalgia for the really early parts something something.


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