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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#19876: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:04:33 PM

All the brain damage does is make him much more docile than he'd otherwise be, and even that flies out the window the moment he goes Super Saiyan.

Actually, I'd like to think that he did heal from the Brain Damage the first time he ate a Senzu, but by then he was already set in his ways and regaining all of his innate saiyan agression didn't change him at all.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#19877: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:18:38 PM

I had a DB-related dream last night. I dreamed I fused with my sister using the Potara Earrings. God I hope this isn't some Freudian thing...

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#19878: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:21:17 PM

How would a male/female potara fusion work?

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#19879: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:28:18 PM

Ask Old Kai.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#19880: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:30:44 PM

The kai part of Old Kai seems to definitely be the dominant one of his fusion and Supreme Kai the same with his and Kabito. Thinking about it, it's kind of weird that there wasn't anyone clearly more dominant with Vegito, but that's probably because Toriyama didn't want to permanently erase either of them or make it seem like he did, even if he always planned for the fusion to be undone.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:31:11 PM by LSBK

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#19881: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:32:11 PM

I thought Vegeta seemed dominant in Vegetto, but that might just be because his colors were on the outside.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:32:30 PM by TobiasDrake

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#19882: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:32:18 PM

[up][up][up]Is that what Old Kai is?

[up][up],[up]I kind of got the impression that Vegetto was a bit more Goku than Vegeta, but that might be because Goku's voice is a bit louder.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:32:35 PM by BaconManiac5000

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#19883: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:32:42 PM

Potara Fusion, unlike Dance Fusion, doesn't seem to have any restrictions so I wonder if one component being much stronger than the other means that part retains control.

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#19884: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:33:42 PM

Probably. Goku and Vegeta were close enough to have a pretty decent blend.

Well, Goku outshines Vegeta horrifically as a Super Saiyan 3, but he wasn't using that form when they fused.

In the event of a male and female fusion with similar blend, intersex is an option.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:34:22 PM by TobiasDrake

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#19885: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:35:23 PM

So, what exactly was the Doylist reasoning for making Vegetto a Potara fusion if they're just going to undo it eventually? Why not just have them use the Fusion Dance?

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#19886: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:42:34 PM

They'd have to learn it, master it, and then have Buu wait to perform it. And that's not even going into the fact that you only have a half hour to finish the job and then wait an hour to do it again.

The fusion dance is Awesome, but Impractical, especially since the potara fusion is stronger and much simpler

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#19887: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:44:54 PM

How does the Fusion Dance work when it comes to power as opposed to the Potara Fusion?

I know the Potara Fusion multiplies power, but what does the Fusion Dance do?

edited 26th Jun '15 1:45:16 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#19888: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:45:23 PM

[up][up][up]The Fusion Dance of Goku and Vegeta had already happened in the Fusion Reborn movie and Toriyama didn't want to repeat that, so he invented a new kind of fusion to keep things fresh.

[up]Nothing official on the dance. We just know Potara is Fusee A's power x Fusee B's power.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:46:11 PM by Cruherrx

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#19889: Jun 26th 2015 at 1:51:50 PM

The fact that Kakarot is the name they used in the blend makes it seem like Vegeta's personality was a little more dominant.

Old Kai is the fusion of a male Supreme Kai and a female witch.

edited 26th Jun '15 1:52:31 PM by unnoun

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#19890: Jun 26th 2015 at 2:19:57 PM

You know who are actually really good Goku and Vegeta style characters without being on the nose about it?

Aang and Zuko.

My various fanfics.
Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#19891: Jun 26th 2015 at 2:38:35 PM

Wait, "Champa"? Ah. I see they stuck with the booze names.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#19892: Jun 26th 2015 at 2:45:14 PM

Champa's attendant should be named Meadle or something.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#19893: Jun 26th 2015 at 2:45:43 PM

The preview also confirmed he is another God of Destruction.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#19894: Jun 26th 2015 at 3:12:59 PM

I wonder what universe Champa's from and what it's like.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#19895: Jun 26th 2015 at 3:19:52 PM

What I really don't want is for the Seventh Universe to be the weakest. Way too predictable.

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#19896: Jun 26th 2015 at 3:25:15 PM

It be funny if it was really similar to the regular one, except everyone is fat.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#19897: Jun 26th 2015 at 3:35:25 PM

Fun things:

The Potara Fusion was originally meant to be between Goku and Gohan, and there was no way in hell that Buu would give Gohan and Goku time to do the fusion dance when the last time some twerps that weren't even in his weight class did it, he got his ass kicked.

From a Doylist perspective, the answer is simple:

The Fusion Dance was just impossible to pull off given the circumstances, and so a new method had to be made available. Plus it raises the stakes because it's kind of an Heroic Sacrifice which has potentially permanent consequences in the DBZ world. Death can be undone, but I can tell you right now that there ain't no way in hell that Shenron's gonna be Unmaking Vegetto.

So the Potara Fusion was merely there to raise tension a bit more, because if Vegetto won... well Goku and Vegeta would cease existing. And if he didn't, then the universe was fooked either way.

edited 26th Jun '15 3:36:21 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#19898: Jun 26th 2015 at 4:52:20 PM

Why couldn't they write it so that if you break or take off one of the earrings, you get split up?

That might even add a little bit of tension to the fights.

@SOS: Hey, you're right.

edited 26th Jun '15 5:00:32 PM by BaconManiac5000

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#19899: Jun 26th 2015 at 5:05:58 PM

[up][up]Yeah, DBM showed that in one Universe, Vegito did stick around as a fused being after dealing with Buu.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#19900: Jun 26th 2015 at 5:20:12 PM

[up]

More precisely, he decided to play it safe and not drop his force-field.

A simple decision that could have changed everything.

Death can be undone, but I can tell you right now that there ain't no way in hell that Shenron's gonna be Unmaking Vegetto.

Now that you bring it up, do we know that? I mean, the dragon can't effect anyone more powerful that it's creator.....but I'm thinking back to when it tried to bring post Namek Goku back to earth and he said no. I got the impression that the dragon can't forcefully effect someone stronger, but if that person lets Shenron go to work.....

So unless we have Word of God (and depending on what he says, people are willing to ignore him), I'm going to assume that Shenron might be an option.

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