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FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1876: Mar 28th 2013 at 11:22:31 AM

I'm sure people won't like me bringing this up, but I thought the Buu Saga was awesome. Purely because it was a throwback to what originally made Dragon Ball so popular and loved, the obscene humor, charm, over-the-top moments and silly characters. Understandably, some people think the Buu Saga was excessive and felt like it dragged on longer than it had any right to and even shouldn't have existed in the first place as they still think Dragon Ball was meant to end after the Freeza Saga, but I thought the Buu Saga was great for what it was and to be honest, I thought Majin Buu was an awesome character, despite how divided fans are on him as a compelling villain.

edited 28th Mar '13 1:27:13 PM by FireShadow

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1877: Mar 28th 2013 at 1:27:20 PM

I liked the Buu saga, had some of my favorite fights (Goku vs. Majin Vegeta, Gohan vs. Super Buu, Vegito vs. Super Buu, and Goku vs. Kid Buu), my favorite villain (Super Buu), and some other stuff.

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Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
The Final ECW Champion
#1878: Mar 28th 2013 at 1:36:13 PM

I loved Gotenks, he alone made the Buu thing worth it.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1879: Mar 28th 2013 at 1:53:18 PM

It's not terrible but it's definitely the worst of the four. I'll go into more detail later.

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#1880: Mar 28th 2013 at 2:23:28 PM

The Buu saga needed to be shorter (the fight against Super Buu got pretty stretched out, no pun intended), but I did like the return to Dragonball tone.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1881: Mar 28th 2013 at 2:46:16 PM

When your heroes can tell the vllain to murder the entire human population because your plot device will just bing them all back, all pretense at drama or suspense are officially and absolutely destroyed.

I won't deny I liked Super Buu (I'll take him over Freeza) but you can't just "go back" to Dragon Ball. You can't have two whole arcs of five-year-olds getting their necks broken and post-apocalyptic futures and then say "let's bring the fun back!" It just doesn't work in my opinion.

I also have a lot of other problems with the arc but I won't hold liking it against anyone. YMMV after all.

I'm hardly one to speak on this sort of thing anyway as the Cell Arc is my favorite in DBZ. A ton of people complain about it too.

And some part of me will always love the Super Saiyan 3 transformation scene.

Poor Mr. Schemmel's vocal chords.

edited 28th Mar '13 2:53:09 PM by Nikkolas

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1882: Mar 28th 2013 at 2:59:28 PM

Ah, yes, that's also something great from this saga. And even if he ended up getting worfed, Ultimate Gohan was awesome while it lasted.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#1883: Mar 28th 2013 at 3:22:00 PM

Cell Saga is by far the weakest part of the series.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#1884: Mar 28th 2013 at 3:44:41 PM

And then Buu did exactly what they said and they did not get anymore time. In fact they lost the Dragon Balls and just so happened to luck out with Supreme Kaioshin being able to make use of a new set...which still did not almost work because of a poorly worded wish (to be fair, they were desperate).

To be fair, that the Buu saga had to be stretched out to the point it was to build any tension could be seen as a flaw but I kind of liked the "when will the nightmare end" feeling Buu gave.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1885: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:26:13 PM

I did like Super Buu's Human Extinction Attack. In a series where Death Is Cheap, even including all the casualties of it, it still felt like a travesty. Especially Piccolo's reaction.

I've been wondering, I know Tien survived it, probably due to being trained and powerful enough to dodge it. But what about Chiaoutzu? Or Android 17? They'd die later anyway thanks to the Planet Burst, but I do still wonder where they were or if they survived the first thing.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1886: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:31:51 PM

It wasn't really stretched out in the manga version. Also, [up][up] this. Boo's response shows that there's still tension, and he's just a few feet away from the guy whose life keeps the Dragon Balls going.

[up] Well if Tenshinhan survived it there's no way 17 wouldn't have.

The Boo arc is probably my favourite arc, but if not the Saiyan arc. After Potara is introduced it really suffers, if it ended with Gohan vs Boo/Gotenks Boo it'd easily be my favourite.

I don't know what the weakest arc of the series is to me. Maybe the Uranai Baba arc, if you consider that a standalone arc.

edited 28th Mar '13 4:33:31 PM by Saiga

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1887: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:35:35 PM

I assumed 17 survived, it's just sorta odd that he isn't even mentioned. Would have been funny if he showed up along with Tien, and after Tien got knocked out and Gohan absorbed Goku would have no choice but to fuse with him and create... Android Goku? Goku 17? Gokuteen?

Buu saga is my favorite, I do agree that it's a shame Gohan doesn't get to be the hero, but at least the battle with Kid Buu was pretty cool.

edited 28th Mar '13 4:36:22 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1888: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:48:59 PM

How would he show up? He can't sense ki.tongue

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1889: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:55:25 PM

Seeing everyone else in the world drop like flies via energy beams from one focal point is pretty worthwhile to investigate, though. I can't imagine he was so isolated as to not notice he was living on an empty planet.

He has reason to not show up, I guess, just would have been neat if he did.

edited 28th Mar '13 4:56:01 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#1890: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:57:23 PM

Would 17 even be targeted, with no ki for buu to detect him?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1891: Mar 28th 2013 at 4:59:20 PM

I think we did once debate whether 17 and 18 have no ki whatsoever or just an imperceptibly low and indistinguishable level like most ordinary humans.

I think we also wondered why androidification would make them no longer produce ki if the former were true, and someone (I think myself) suggested that maybe Gero installed ki-masking features to deliberately hide their ki.

edited 28th Mar '13 5:01:13 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1892: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:00:18 PM

[up][up] Good point, he probably wouldn't.

[up][up][up] But how's he going to know where the blasts originated from? If he was near any civilians that got killed, he's probably got no hope of tracking it.

edited 28th Mar '13 5:00:38 PM by Saiga

Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#1893: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:01:52 PM

Looking up and seeing energy blasts raining from the sky, and then flying towards where they're coming from?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1894: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:06:51 PM

Is Buu looking Piccolo in the eyes as he does it deliberate, or just incidental of Buu's weirdness? Even in his base form he seems to understand emotional responses enough to target them as weak points, so I wouldn't put it past him...

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1895: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:10:41 PM

[up][up] It happened all over the world, and lasted an instant. Doesn't seem like it would be easy to trace.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1896: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:11:37 PM

I guess it would depend on just where 17 is. If he didn't wander too far, then it would probably be easy to track. If he's off living in a nature preserve on the other side of the world, then yeah, he probably would just be left extremely confused as to why everyone else dropped dead.

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
"The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-"
#1897: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:11:46 PM

"An instant" is much longer for DBZ characters who move faster than sound.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1898: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:14:40 PM

[up] Except none of them do.

[up][up] He's living in the mountains.

edited 28th Mar '13 5:15:31 PM by Saiga

Randomman5 "The Perfect Villain Doesn't Exi-" Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Forming Voltron
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#1899: Mar 28th 2013 at 5:15:04 PM

They don't? Seriously?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder

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