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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1751: Mar 22nd 2013 at 4:13:06 PM

I'm rather fond of the origin of its name. The designers were overseen by one Mr. Hiruda, who was displeased with their original designs for the villain. When they showed him the new design, his jaw dropped, the onomatopeia for which in Japan is "-garn". So, the villain is called Hirudegarn.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#1752: Mar 22nd 2013 at 5:02:11 PM

If I wanted Goku Vs. Godzilla, I would of just of had Toho and toei do a Dragon Ball and Godzilla Crossover.

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Lennik (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1753: Mar 22nd 2013 at 5:24:03 PM

I actually liked Cooler, probably in no small part because Cooler's Revenge is my favorite of the movies, but I hate Broly. He's big. He smashes stuff. Fascinating. He wouldn't be such a bad character if so many people didn't insist he was the strongest in the series who couldn't be beat. When in reality, Super Saiyan 2 Gohan as a teen probably could have curb-stomped him. It's especially frustrating that the video games are always showing him to be on-par with Super Saiyan Gogeta, and one of the latest makes him a Super Saiyan 3. He's just a terrible fanfic character.

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#1754: Mar 22nd 2013 at 5:41:41 PM

Cooler's true form also resembles The Shredder, so that gives him points by default.

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kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#1755: Mar 23rd 2013 at 7:54:18 PM

Spoilers ahead or something: Lol

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#1756: Mar 23rd 2013 at 7:56:11 PM

DAMN.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1757: Mar 24th 2013 at 6:53:14 AM

@Anom That's the origin? Blah, guess I've been romanizing the name wrong then.

FireShadow (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1758: Mar 24th 2013 at 9:21:09 AM

This may sound like beating a dead horse, but I never understood why people say that the Goku/Freeza fight lasted too long? Last time I checked the manga, the fight technically lasted 19 chapters, so having the fight last 19 episodes, seems reasonable doesn't it? You have to take into consideration that the anime was being produced very close to when the manga was being produced and at some points characters were being introduced in the anime BEFORE they were introduced in the manga. I understand the whole '5 minutes' scenario is ridiculous, but that in my opinion this was down to Freeza overestimating his ability because he couldn't handle the fact that he was getting his ass kicked by Super Saiyan Goku. Or was the fight the epitome of stretching for time?

edited 28th Mar '13 11:00:05 AM by FireShadow

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#1759: Mar 24th 2013 at 9:23:08 AM

According to the DVD I have, the entire fight against Frieza, for all of his forms, is the show's entire third season. One fight.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1760: Mar 24th 2013 at 9:23:12 AM

[up][up][up]What have you been Romanizing it as?

edited 24th Mar '13 9:23:19 AM by Anomalocaris20

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1761: Mar 24th 2013 at 9:27:32 AM

I don't necessarily hate the fact that the fight is so long since it's one of the best in the series(although even as a kid I was thinking near the end "Just finish this fight already!"). The primary problem I have with it is that about nine episodes of that apparently takes place in the span of five minutes. They could have changed it to five hours in the dub to solve this problem but for some reason they didn't.

edited 24th Mar '13 9:28:18 AM by Kostya

supermerlin100 Since: Sep, 2011
#1762: Mar 24th 2013 at 11:59:27 AM

Normally 20 chapters=10 episodes. And it was stupidly long in the manga to start with.

Cider The Final ECW Champion from Not New York Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#1763: Mar 24th 2013 at 12:39:40 PM

Complaining about the length of the Freeza fight in the "anime" is missing the entire point. The cartoon was not spectacular to begin with and got terrible once it caught up to the comic. On panel you can read the entire Goku/Freeza fight in one hour. On screen the Super Saiyan portion is at least three hours.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1764: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:35:08 PM

During my last re-watch of the Freeza Saga I ended up skipping a ton of the episodes. I have no idea how I was glued to every damn episode when I first saw it on Cartoon Network.

So, question. Why did Vegeta try to blow up the Earth AND THEN turn into Oozaru when that failed? The latter seems like a much better plan as it's not suicidal.

I realize he was enraged and probably not thinking clearly but why would having his attack overpowered by Goku make him think more clearly? Shouldn't he be even more irrational and crazed?

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#1765: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:38:31 PM

Looking a bit Village People there, Ox King. Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Why are Pilaf, Mai and Shuu little children now?

Also, apparently Gohan has anorexia now.

edited 24th Mar '13 7:40:15 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#1766: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:42:20 PM

Because they waned to restore their youth, but became too young and turned into kids.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1767: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:43:08 PM

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Irony. Especially considering Dragon Ball GT.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#1768: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:43:15 PM

Irony~

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edited 24th Mar '13 7:43:30 PM by Anomalocaris20

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#1769: Mar 24th 2013 at 7:49:52 PM

Nikolas: That's a good question. My best guess would be because it took less energy to fire the Galick Gun than it did to make the fake moon. He could have also been worried about Gohan but that's doubtful since he was far away.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1770: Mar 24th 2013 at 9:03:14 PM

19 chapters > 19 episodes is about as unreasonable as you can get. Even 2:1 isn't a reasonable ratio, as that fits current manga (Dragon Ball had fewer pages in each chapter than current manga). 50 pages is about what it takes to have an episode that isn't padded out (2-3 current manga chapters or 4-5 Dragon Ball ones) which is why 1:1 is terrible for Dragon Ball.

@Nik my memory of the dialogue is fuzzy but I'm pretty sure Vegeta was trying to goad Goku into taking the attack to stop it from destroying Earth.

edited 24th Mar '13 9:04:29 PM by Saiga

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#1771: Mar 25th 2013 at 12:48:42 AM

Ya know, I'm curious about something. Saiga and I both post on the Daizenshuu/Kaizenshuu forums and I'm sure a few others here do as well. Anybody who posts there is aware of the general contempt held for FU Ni's DBZ dub.

I'm just wondering what the DB fans here think? Do you think it's good, bad, in-between? Do you have any voices in particular you thought were really good or really bad?

I will always love Stephanie Nadolny's Kid Goku. Dragon Ball had a much better dub than DBZ and that's really clear with her Goku compared to her Gohan.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1772: Mar 25th 2013 at 1:06:55 AM

I prefer the dub for most voices, Freeza's Japanese VA is superior to any of the English ones though (and maybe Cell, too). I can't stand Nozawa though.

#1773: Mar 25th 2013 at 1:27:39 AM

The old Funi dubs, while they have their moments, are terrible for the most part, and haven't aged all that well.

The Kai dub, however, is excellent, and one of the few things that make DB Kai worth it. I generally find it hard to go back to vanilla DBZ and its outdated dub nowadays. Outside the Faulconer music of course.

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kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#1774: Mar 25th 2013 at 2:12:06 AM

Vegeta's voice sounds always awesome.

Goku's Japanese voice makes me want to murder babies.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#1775: Mar 25th 2013 at 2:13:39 AM

No jury would convict you.

edited 25th Mar '13 2:13:45 AM by Saiga


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