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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#89976: Nov 18th 2018 at 4:54:43 AM

Yeah, like an important plot point Jaco was how GP was helpless to stop adult Sayians and could only deal with babies.

This development is pretty silly.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89977: Nov 18th 2018 at 4:59:15 AM

Didn't Resurrection F specifically mention that the Galactic Patrol only existed because Freeza allowed it?

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#89978: Nov 18th 2018 at 6:04:34 AM

Because they were such a non-factor, yes.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#89979: Nov 18th 2018 at 6:22:29 AM

Considering the effect of that stun gun and how Goku was nearly killed by Sorbet when his guard was off with a normal blaster, Freiza could easily win by modifying those gun to work at a distance and snip Goku and Vegeta.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89980: Nov 18th 2018 at 7:14:21 AM

Yeesh.

This is why you don't make your villains THIS powerful Toriyama.

When you established that the Galaxy Patrol was totally helpless against Freeza and his armies (and couldn't even hope to fight an adult Saiyan and thus had to kill the babies), you can't suddenly say oh, they have lasers that can knock out Goku and Vegeta. That's bullshit.

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
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#89981: Nov 18th 2018 at 8:35:01 AM

Then again, this is Toriyama so we cannot expect him to be on top of things all the time. >_>

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#89982: Nov 18th 2018 at 9:02:36 AM

Now we can have a villain that doesn't need to be God level power to stand up to out heroes

Then it turns out that the only ones that can deflect lazers are bald people given their clean-shaved heads and so Piccolo, Krillin and Tien save the day.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89983: Nov 18th 2018 at 9:21:04 AM

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But then Goku saves the day anyway.tongue

Now getting serious, I suppose it's possible that since Jaco's original story, the Galactic Patrol has become more competent. Freeza has been gone for a number of years, and lost a lot of his elites on Namek as well. Also, we know that the Planet Trade was struggling to keep control of their holdings to the point that they finally decided to bring Freeza back as his sheer power would tip things back in their favour. It's possible that with him gone, many planets under Freeza's thumb rebelled and maybe some joined the Galactic Patrol as they were the only game in town in terms of fighting off the bad guys. This might have lead to an improvement in tech and warriors with high battle powers.

I mean, for all his incompetence, Jaco is incredibly strong without Ki, and has eyesight that's as good as any Z warrior when using said ki. If he had the same level of training they did, he'd be pretty strong.

In the Resurrection F movie, he was shown to be pretty effective in combat as well, easily putting down normal Freeza Mooks though the anime version nerfed him in that regard. Maybe that version is a more accurate measure of Jaco's abilities, and other GP's are in that range as well.

It's hard to tell because Toei tends to do their own thing, and Toriyama values jokes above most everything else.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#89984: Nov 18th 2018 at 9:23:43 AM

Yeah I'm betting this whole Galactic Patorl Prisoner Arc will basically just end up being manga filler and not do much of anything.

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tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#89985: Nov 18th 2018 at 9:49:03 AM

[up] I'm not sure about that honestly. If Super is going too continue or another anime starts up sometime after the movie, maybe this is a way of letting the Manga get ahead again by starting with the next arc long before the anime even begins.

I do wonder if that is the case whether Super/whatever it's called if it's renamed will start with this or an adaption of the Broly movie.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#89986: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:03:51 AM

Since character customization seems to have returned for SDBH World Mission, what do ya think you'll do with what characters? Remember that the following stuff was possible in the last game, Ultimate Mission X:

tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#89987: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:24:50 AM

[up] Even just that thumbnail is a work of art.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89988: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:27:33 AM

Is there no dub episode today?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#89989: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:30:39 AM

There was an Attack On Titan marathon.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89990: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:32:43 AM

Ah.

I always knew those Titans would cause trouble.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89991: Nov 18th 2018 at 10:32:54 AM

Ah.

I always knew those Titans would cause trouble.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#89992: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:18:59 AM

It's always funny how people react to battles in this series.

If Goku (or Vegeta) beats someone easily, then they were weaklings who don't matter. But if Goku and Vegeta lose, then they're seen as pathetic.

Shonen logic is funn.y

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#89993: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:26:07 AM

The end result just sound like Gohand fans.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89994: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:36:16 AM

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To be fair, Goku and Vegeta have been portrayed as so far above everyone (and this was a huge plot point in the Buu saga where they made a number of the strongest warriors in the universe look like jokes, with even Dabura supposedly being easy to handle if not for Gohan being out of shape) that they make those guys look weak.

Nearly (but not always admittedly) every time someone has tried to win a fight with something besides higher power or brute force, they've failed (including the heroes at times), and it's been shown that fancy tech rarely is enough against these guys. Scouter can't read their power levels, battle suits are easily broken, and fancy lasers never hit until Sorbet got lucky.

So for the Galactic Patrol, who have once again been portrayed as not standing any chance at all against even a vastly weakened Freeza empire (and this is before their leader returned) to suddenly be able to take Goku and Vegeta out with a fancy laser gun does seem kinda questionable. How come they couldn't do this to stop Freeza?

But yeah, Shonen logic (or rather the logic the fans use) is a little unfair.

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#89995: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:39:33 AM

reminds me of that stunny thingy from Thor

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89996: Nov 18th 2018 at 11:50:53 AM

You mean Ragnarok?

Huh, I was just watching that again yesterday, and it finally dawned on me how weird it was that someone with Thunder powers could be taken out by an electrical device.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#89997: Nov 18th 2018 at 12:21:51 PM

Base Saiyans were still weaker than Freeza by Battle of Gods.

Then again, it seems Toriyama forgot Piccolo is supposed to be FAR beyond pre-training Freeza, as he is somewhere below Perfect Cell without transforming.

Seriously if Freeza at 530000 was already this unholy behemoth far beyond any mortal, despite reaching up to 120 million, then Piccolo should be seen as a truly exceptional being and all that.

Hell, Nail was, what, the 7th to the 4th strongest mortal in the Universe (depending on how he compares to 3/5ths of the Ginyu force)?

Edited by Eriorguez on Nov 18th 2018 at 9:26:19 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#89998: Nov 18th 2018 at 12:24:49 PM

Its almost like fans care more about numerical values than the author does or something.

Assuming we're staying consistent here(HAHAH) , Freeza is likely still stronger than base Goku or Vegeta, ROF notwithstanding.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 18th 2018 at 3:25:20 PM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#89999: Nov 18th 2018 at 12:30:55 PM

Hell, I could care less about the numbers, it is a matter of power scaling.

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#90000: Nov 18th 2018 at 12:49:51 PM

I got the feeling that after training with whiss, they managed to get their base form to be stronger, at least that's what I think

Still the galactic patrol knocking them out makes no sense, at least to me

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