My guess as to the film's plot: Broly is either a gentle Saiyan like Gine or Tarble or a normal fight-loving Saiyan. Either way, he hates that his father is using him as a weapon and forcing him to fight Goku and Vegeta. Paragus dies and Broly becomes a good guy by the end of the film. Chelye dies which makes Broly go berserk but they bring her back after Broly turns good, so it's okay.
I could go either way on Broly naturally liking fighting or not. If Broly is gentle at heart, it creates a parallel with Gine and bookends the film with a gentle Saiyan at the beginning and a gentle Saiyan at the end. On the other hand, if Broly is a normal fight-loving Saiyan and he just hates that Paragus is forcing him to fight against his will using mind-control, Broly can train with Whis after this and become Goku and Vegeta's new sparring buddy.
Either way, Broly becomes Kale's friend and possibly mentor in future arcs of Super (or whatever show replaces it).
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 7th 2018 at 8:24:34 AM
...Anyone remember Yamoshi?
Remember how he was going to be the focus of the new Super movie?
Good times.
This song needs more love.Yamoshi just kinda became Broly didn't he?
So in a sense, it's still about him.
One Strip! One Strip!On Cell, I assumed that the androids were combined with him on a biological level, which is why he looks progressively more human and is so freely able to use their infinite energy drives. The punch reversed the merging process
Here's a thought that I may have pointed out before, but it bares noting: Android 17 was revived by the wish to bring back everyone killed by Cell and the androids. But he was part of Cell on his death. It can't be due to his self-destruct because the wish would bring back King Kai, who also died because of the self-destruct and hasn't been revived before.
Dr Gero should also have been revived in some form because he was killed by the androids. And as he wasn't dead for over a year like Frieza, it would be in a complete state(either his android body or being made a human again)
It was never going to be about Yamoshi, but that was the most popular theory by far until the subtitle was revealed. Yamoshi theorizing actually functioned as a sort of smokescreen to keep all of us from realizing that the movie was about Broly.
You know, I was always disappointed by Movie 8 because I thought Broly had all the potential to be a tragic character, the movie just never did anything with it. Looks like Toriyama agrees with me.
People were freaking out about Whis fighting Broly in the trailer, and while I agree that it's cool to see Whis actually getting out there and doing stuff, saying that they're fighting is a bit of an overstatement. Honestly reminds me more of Whis training Goku and Vegeta in terms of Whis' expression and movement, makes me think that might be foreshadowing Broly training with Whis alongside Goku and Vegeta by the end of this.
I also really love the idea that Broly is a serious threat even with the mind-control collar on.
Man, I want Movie 20 Broly and Kale in FighterZ so badly, just so that we can make a full team of Legendary Super Saiyans.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:03:57 PM
I'd be fine with Paragus' character taking a hit if it means that Broly's gets a huge boost up. Broly's more important than Paragus in this film anyway, his name is in the title. I don't really think that Paragus will be much worse, if at all, but if there must be a trade-off, it's one I'd be fine with.
I'm going to be calling Broly's forms Controlled Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan, and Legendary Super Saiyan.
It looks like much of the fight takes place between Goku and Vegeta in their various forms against Controlled Super Saiyan Broly. Even that gigantic ball Broly's charging is in Controlled Super Saiyan, so it seems like he's going to be a serious threat even before his mind-control collar breaks.
At a certain point, Broly's mind-control collar breaks and he fights Goku and Vegeta in their SSB forms using his own proper Super Saiyan. I'm not sure if Broly's collar breaking is the result of Paragus biting the dust, but I wouldn't be surprised.
We still have yet to see any footage of Legendary Super Saiyan Broly fighting, which means there's probably still a lot of the fight they have yet to show us. My guess is that the thing to trigger Broly into Legendary Super Saiyan will be Chelye dying.
Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Nov 7th 2018 at 12:40:46 PM
So SDBH Universe Mission 5 came out, and according to the game's story, Xeno Vegetto fights Cumber, then Goku goes Ultra Instinct to fight Cumber. Then all of a sudden Mecha Zamasu (Merged Zamasu with cyborg parts to replace his grotesque half) appears and injures Ultra Instinct Goku. Ozotto then uses this opprotunity to steal all the dragonballs and escape Prison Planet. Vegeta, Trunks, Mai and the Time Patrollers all seem to go after him.
Looks like shit just hit the fan hardcore.
Oh, also an update on the god poll:
- Quitela: 44
- Beerus: 39
- Liqour: 25
- Mosco-Mule: 17
- Champa: 16
- Vermoud: 14
- Helles: 4
- Geene: 4
- Sidra: 3
- Iwen: 2
- Rumoosh: 1
- Arak: 0
Okay Mecha Zamasu might just beat Dark Dragonball Time Breaker Super Saiyan 4 Broly for the most stupid awesome thing in Heroes.
This song needs more love.Here's what he looks like.
◊ People have been calling him Punished Zamasu.
That's so fucking dumb and I love it.
Also, I've been re-checking the footage, and it looks like my earlier guess that the control collar is responsible for Broly's Controlled Super Saiyan form is wrong. Looking over the footage, Broly's control collar isn't gone when SSG Vegeta punches him, but it is gone in both scenes with SSG Goku, the scene where he's smashing Goku through the ice and the scene where Goku does that new move. The collar is also clearly gone the entire time he's shown fighting the Blues using that form.
Remember how he was going to be the focus of the new Super movie?
Didn't we already know that he's been dead for thousands or millions of years? Literally how could he be showing up in the present?
...Also, insert mean snarky comment about Super Saiyan Pan here.
Or. Legendary Super Saiyan Gine or. Super Saiyan God Gine or.
I dunno. Anything.
Fucking Heroes.
Mecha Zamasu is so far from his character concept, and they've given effing Nappa Super Saiyan 3, when I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the world that gives a shit about Nappa, and they've given old!Broly every Super Saiyan form in history and.
Like. Pan in something like Gohan's Cell Games outfit in Super Saiyan 2. Just. Give me that.
...Or, failing that, like. I'm a hypocrite and I can settle, give me Great Saiyaman 3/4/5 Pan. Great Saiyagirl. Great Saiyapan.
...And what the fuck Toriyama's involved in the animation
.
Wh- why is Toriyama taking so much more involvement in this than he ever has before?
Why Broly?
Why are they putting effort in and making me excited for and care about a fucking Broly movie.
Who do these fuckers think they are?
EDIT: Also, for the record, in the manga panel that shows Frieza destroying Planet Vegeta, he has the armor on, but he's not wearing a scouter, so while they fixed Freeza's nakedness for that shot in this trailer, they also added a Scouter he's not supposed to have.
So. That's funny.
Edited by unnoun on Nov 8th 2018 at 7:48:48 AM

Shit it’s funny how all that talk that Broly doesn’t want this & yet we didn’t hear a lick of dialogue outta him.
So hyped for this even if we’re all gonna be spoiled once it comes out next month.
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."