He broke Dende's home for no real reason and ditched his family.
Just rude.
Even then Super Goku took being stupid & made it really fucking stupid.
He fights multiple Shadow Dragons, in his base form as a kid, with Pan. Definition of sandbagging.
He fights the dude as strong as Majin Buu while never really going over Super Saiyan 1.
He knew Baby was around and he and Trunks tried to lure him into a false sense of security trap thing.
Even though Pan couldnt turn Super Saiyan, which their plan hinged on.
Edited by unnoun on Nov 1st 2018 at 4:43:56 AM
GT was just kid Karrot stupid, so he's fine.
Also Super OP 1.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.GT at least tried to give an excuse and de-aged Goku so that's already an improvement.
Also Super Saiyan 4 > Blueper.
This song needs more love.I mean, I like Kid Goku, but going back to an old design and making a character younger again is sorta the definition of the opposite of progress.
And I think Super Saiyan 4's ugly because of the mascara and the pants.
I'd like it more if it ditched those.
Or. Hell, just kept their shirts on until battle damaged.
The pants out of nowhere is just weird.
Edited by unnoun on Nov 1st 2018 at 4:47:35 AM
Also wasn't there a scene where Super Goku (anime) couldn't count to five. Or something. I vaguely remember that.
Edited by Kamiccolo on Nov 1st 2018 at 1:49:00 AM
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Why would you compare her to them? Don't have to be 16...
She's 9 because in the original end of Z she's 4, and GT is 5 years later.
The English Dub of GT said GT was 10 years later, and also claimed that Pan in Z was 4 instead of 5, and that Bra (or, Bulla, which. Eh.) was 6 instead of 4.
And I think the dub did that specifically because of how much more fucking creepy it would have been otherwise.
So, I can't even fault Funimation for that. As decisions go, it was the right one to make.
Edited by unnoun on Nov 1st 2018 at 4:58:01 AM
He fights the dude as strong as Majin Buu while never really going over Super Saiyan 1.
The issue with sandbagging is when they're getting their ass kicked/shown to be visibly struggling for an extended period with no logical reason why they'd still be holding back. Super is really bad about this, although it's sometimes hard to tell if this is what they're doing or just shit power scaling.
GT Goku is definitely dumber than Z Goku, but he wasn't flanderized as far as Super Goku. And as an adult (SS 4) he thankfully gets away from the stupid characterization.
What's this Goku v Goku animation?
Edited by Saiga on Nov 1st 2018 at 7:17:09 PM
Also, Marron is 9 in Super, and Trunks and Goten are 14 and 13.
Marron literally looks the same as she did at 3, but with a different dress.
Does aging just make your outfit change?
To be fair, clothes spontaneously appearing and disappearing is nothing new to Dragon Ball.
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He kinda is though.
Like, the thing where he apparently never saw his family or friends while training Uub, and that's why Pan hates him.
Even though he also explicitly stayed on Earth the entire time.
And even went to Dende's Lookout and trained there mostly. And not even in the Time Chamber, but just the actual physical lookout.
Edited by unnoun on Nov 1st 2018 at 4:35:04 AM