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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89126: Oct 31st 2018 at 6:00:00 PM

Frieza's expressions around the Ginyu Force though.

Like.

Whenever Ginyu shows up, Frieza always has the face of a man with infinite patience.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89127: Oct 31st 2018 at 6:34:56 PM

Well, the first thing Ginyu did upon touching down on Namek was immediately take back all seven Dragon Balls and deliver them to Frieza.

Gotta admire that efficiency.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89129: Oct 31st 2018 at 6:40:54 PM

Listen. When you got a guy as useful as Ginyu, you gotta tank a few Joy Dances.

You gotta.

It's clear that Ginyu's success rate outweighed his eccentricity in Freeza's mind.

One Strip! One Strip!
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#89130: Oct 31st 2018 at 6:58:17 PM

Here's what I read about the script

Nagamine says they’re adapting Toriyama’s script pretty much as-is apart from the action scenes. But the original script would've made for twice the scheduled 90 minute run time, so everyone involved has worked to trim it down, though the run time has still been slightly extended

Edited by Moth13 on Oct 31st 2018 at 9:58:24 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#89132: Oct 31st 2018 at 7:18:21 PM

I think the reason why King Cold has never had a form introduced in any other media isn't because that horned form really is his true form, but because they simply don't feel bothered to do. After all, Frieza never got a fifth form in any video game or other media as far as I know until Golden Frieza despite Cooler having a fifth form they could copy. Or because it was too iconic, like how in filler Hell Frieza is wholly organic despite dying as a cyborg, yet Dr Gero is still a cyborg because they're the most familiar forms

Honestly I don't mind it because King Cold looks distinct and cool(even if he's mostly a Pallette Swap of 2nd form Frieza) from his son as it is. If I were to headcanon it, maybe it's like how King Piccolo could make his sons look different from him(Piccolo is a direct reincarnation as well as son) where his weird biology lets him asexually reproduce different-looking offspring.

Actually, is there cases where organism can asexually reproduce different-looking offspring?

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89133: Oct 31st 2018 at 7:27:32 PM

I mean, like, with mutations, kinda?

Edited by unnoun on Oct 31st 2018 at 10:28:58 AM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#89134: Oct 31st 2018 at 7:55:46 PM

im scared again now

To be fair, a bunch of Toriyama's inspiration from Broly seems to be about how easy it was to tie into the Saiyan past stuff that he was already thinking about more with Dragon Ball Minus.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89135: Oct 31st 2018 at 7:57:57 PM

So Broly is pretty much the final source of inspiration to catalyze all this Saiyan history stuff he’s been thinking of recently.

Hopefully it’s good, he has exerted more of an effort than I expected him to usually do.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 31st 2018 at 7:58:12 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#89136: Oct 31st 2018 at 7:58:30 PM

There is exactly one video game where Freeza achieved Cooler's 5th Form. In Shin Budokai - Another Road, in Cooler's Arcade mode, Freeza achieves Cooler's 5th form off-screen after the two fight.

Freeza also kind of gains access to the form in Fusions when he fuses with Cooler to form Cooleeza.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#89137: Oct 31st 2018 at 10:11:26 PM

What a wasted opportunity to use Freezer.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89138: Oct 31st 2018 at 10:13:58 PM

Man Fusion names are really hit or miss.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#89139: Oct 31st 2018 at 11:38:34 PM

You know maybe they should just call Frieza's race, Frieza, and just have it that his daddy named him after their own race.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89140: Nov 1st 2018 at 12:01:25 AM

That basically is the case already

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#89141: Nov 1st 2018 at 12:03:19 AM

I don't think it has actually been officialized. They are still called Frieza's race, not Frieza.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89142: Nov 1st 2018 at 12:07:26 AM

Really Frieza’s Race is more arrogant because it basically states Frieza has ownership over his race.

If his species is called Frieza then everyone would be a Frieza & that doesn’t work because there can only be one Frieza.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 1st 2018 at 12:07:58 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89143: Nov 1st 2018 at 12:14:21 AM

[up][up] The meaning is the same, though

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#89144: Nov 1st 2018 at 12:21:37 AM

There is definitely a distinction between I was named after my race and my race is solely referred to by their relation to me. Practically speaking for this series it really doesn't matter though.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89145: Nov 1st 2018 at 1:02:05 AM

No-one was talking about Freeza being named after his race though.

It was either the race being named 'Freeza' after him, or being known as 'Freeza's race/clan' after him.

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#89146: Nov 1st 2018 at 1:13:25 AM

Firewater said exactly that 7 posts above this. "...just have it that his daddy named him after their own race."

Edited by Jedi1113 on Nov 1st 2018 at 4:14:35 AM

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#89147: Nov 1st 2018 at 1:20:07 AM

That reminds me of a fun fact. As we know, Vegeta is named after his dad, who named planet Vegeta in his own honor after conquering it. But that wasn't the case in the Saiyan arc, when Vegeta wasn't even the Saiyan prince. Instead, the planet was just called "Vegeta" the whole time, and he was named after the planet. Because he was so powerful and so representative of a pure Saiyan that he was essentially chosen as the Anthropomorphic Personification of their world.

I honestly like that a lot better.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Nov 1st 2018 at 1:22:28 AM

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89148: Nov 1st 2018 at 2:11:19 AM

[up][up] Ah, I misread Firewater's sentence as the other way around.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#89149: Nov 1st 2018 at 2:22:12 AM

If Ginyu's purple body actually is his real body(it's never made clear) does that mean he's just awful at finding a stronger, better body and always has to go back to his old one? Apparently he at least changed once before to a rich kid when he was at school, but learned it didn't give him much. The Broly trailer shows that he and pretty much every important Frieza henchmen hasn't aged a day in 30 years and Ginyu has at least had the purple body that long, because they were too lazy to make younger models you usually get life-extending medicine before discovering interstellar travel

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89150: Nov 1st 2018 at 2:27:42 AM

Keep in mind he only used the body-switching technique when it became clear Goku was stronger than him.

Meaning Ginyu was never beaten or met someone he didn't kill.

So that body is prolly the strongest he's found.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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