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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#89101: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:39:24 PM

Super Broly's runtime will be 1 hour and 40 minutes long, so it's closer to an hour and 20 minutes that were cut from the original script.

As for whether we'll get that extended cut, it's possible. Battle of Gods and Resurrection F both got extended versions released, the former with the all-important Beerus vs Oolong battle, the latter with Future Trunks reading about Goku and Freeza's first fight.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89102: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:39:53 PM

I don't think I'd be able to write anything after literally marathoning the Brolly movies except inarticulate rage. Which is ironically one of Broly's traditional and myriad flaws.

I mean, I can't remember which interview it was, and I might have imagined it, but didn't they say he locked himself in a hotel room with the Broly trilogy and a blank sheet of paper and walked out with the fucking 3 hour script? Maybe that's a myth or legend or my subconscious or nightmares made it up but.

The man couldn't write a fucking personality for Jiren in time for the anime, (because apparently Toei's original concept for Jiren was Toppo) but he made 3. Fucking. Hours. For Broly.

I dunno whether to be impressed or terrified.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#89103: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:40:15 PM

Then i hope he includes every single character that fought Broly.

Yes, even Future Trunks

Uni cat
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#89104: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:45:44 PM

It's so weird to me that Res 'F' got a rerelease with Future Trunks scenes added. Like, they were clearly just there to hype up the Future Trunks arc, but 'F' already got a retelling in Super, so were they retconning the Super version? I haven't seen the full extended edition, but I'm sure those Future Trunks scenes completely break up the narrative of the movie, too, even if they're supposedly focused on Goku's original battle with Freeza on Namek.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Oct 30th 2018 at 6:46:23 AM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89105: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:51:04 PM

An interesting possible way to reference to the other movies would be to have the casualties of Broly’s rampage be the characters he fought in the other movies: Gohan, Videl, Goten, Trunks, Krillin, 18.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89106: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:52:53 PM

pfft, like videl will...

i was gonna say 'fight' but no, actually, I'll go further and say "be at all present".

just a guess.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#89107: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:53:08 PM

Is the movie too dark to expect half the supporting cast to get offed?

Uni cat
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#89108: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:55:36 PM

It's Dragon Ball, they'll just be brought back to life.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#89109: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:55:59 PM

[up][up] Like I said, I’d see the list as being more casualties than battles.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89110: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:56:43 PM

they don't even need shenron if whis is there

especially if it's frieza's fault, because that makes it whis's fault

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#89111: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:04:45 PM

Also, it's missing the rematch of the century.

Roshi vs Broly

Uni cat
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89112: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:05:52 PM

ideaI'm pretty sure the 3 hours of content didnt come from Toriyama

The original draft he turned in was too short, and it was expanded and added to until it became too long. From the various permutations of that phrase I've seen it sounds like it was Toei/Shuiesha doing that part.

I also only recall Toriyama talking about watching the first Broli movie.

Edited by Saiga on Oct 31st 2018 at 12:07:51 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89114: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:13:38 PM

The man couldn't write a fucking personality for Jiren in time for the anime, (because apparently Toei's original concept for Jiren was Toppo) but he made 3. Fucking. Hours. For Broly.

I dunno whether to be impressed or terrified.

Well thanks to [up][up], my comment about how what you said was a really interesting point is now lost to the ether.

Once again, you ruin everything with your cursed logic Saiga.

And now, with more thought on it, I realize that Toriyama not really putting that much effort into the Broly movie is actually kinda relieving.

Though him wring something that's way too short sounds more like him. And here I was starting to respect the effort he put in, even as it horrified me.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89115: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:21:45 PM

...Although, wait, does that mean Toei are the ones doing the Dragon Ball Minus bits?

Because that would be. Weird.

Like. How short is too short, and which bits are from who?

Because, honestly, I dont see why a Broly movie needs as much Planet Vegeta flashback as it seems to get.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 30th 2018 at 10:25:03 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89116: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:24:08 PM

I assume the minus bits are from Toriyama's notes...at least until stated otherwise.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89117: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:27:28 PM

I mean, Toei in DBZ and original Dragon Ball would often try to recreate panels from the manga.

After Toriyama wrote and drew Minus himself, as a manga, I can see Toei throwing it in themselves because they wanted to color and animate it.

Id rather it be part of a Jaco OVA, where it makes more sense as part of the joke, but Toei is Toei.

FrozenWolf2 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#89118: Oct 30th 2018 at 8:00:04 PM

If Freeza was created to substitute out Vegeta as the villain for Namek...

We missed out... Cause Evil Vegeta's meltdown over Goku becoming a Super Saiyan would have been glorious.

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#89119: Oct 30th 2018 at 9:50:20 PM

The original draft he turned in was too short, and it was expanded and added to until it became too long. From the various permutations of that phrase I've seen it sounds like it was Toei/Shuiesha doing that part.
This is also supported by the fact that his "scripts" for ROF and BOG were no scripts at all:
It’s really embarrassing to have this called a “screenplay”. It’d probably be more accurate to say it’s just a memo. It’s simply something I idly dashed off for the staff, just to help explain the flow of the story and the dialogue! Never in a million years did I think it would get published.
He seems to just write outlines of the story and characters and provide sketches for new designs, similar to Super. I really don't see him changing that process and becoming super detailed and passionate for the Broly movie of all things.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89120: Oct 31st 2018 at 4:12:06 AM

He seems to just write outlines of the story and characters and provide sketches for new designs, similar to Super.

See, I knew all that.

I really don't see him changing that process and becoming super detailed and passionate for the Broly movie of all things.

And that's why I was worried. The idea that Broly specifically got him to put work in was terrifying to me.

just because he popped out of the same womb

...See, with the little growth pod things, it's not clear that Saiyans do pop out of wombs on Vegeta?

Like, I have to assume that they do naturally because they can reproduce with humans, and so they have to be similar in physiology.

But as long as they worked for Frieza. Like, I don't think Raditz and Kakarot did?

tms_forever1 Since: Apr, 2017 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#89121: Oct 31st 2018 at 4:23:53 PM

Ngl I’m a bit disappointed the 3 hour script isn’t the immediate result of Toriyama binge watching all 3 Broly movies and then writing a script. The madness that would result from that would probably be amazingly insane.

Me and some friends marathoned all 3 Broly movies one night a couple months ago. None of us were really sane by the end of it, and we even watched Second Coming on double speed! I can’t imagine what would result from a person subjecting themselves to that alone lol.

Edited by tms_forever1 on Oct 31st 2018 at 7:24:12 AM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#89122: Oct 31st 2018 at 5:05:29 PM

About that Vegeta-Freeza thing, Freezer's a very slightly better boss to his strongest minions. tongue

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89123: Oct 31st 2018 at 5:19:33 PM

But we also know he'd kill them just as easily if they fail him enough...or if he thinks they're a threat to his power.

Or if it just benefits him some how.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89124: Oct 31st 2018 at 5:53:42 PM

Somehow, (at least before Super) I couldn't honestly imagine Frieza killing Ginyu.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89125: Oct 31st 2018 at 5:55:46 PM

Of course not.

Ginyu was always useful.

Though when I think about it, Freeza must have had untold confidence in Ginyu's loyalty since he had no fear of the dude who could swap bodies at all.

I mean, Multiverse showed us what would happen if Ginyu lost that loyalty.

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