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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89051: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:42:54 AM

See, that could be useful, except we never see them fight as a unit.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#89052: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:47:10 AM

Specifically because they were being dicks after their boss left. Gohan, Krillin and Vegeta would have flat out died way before Goku showed up if they had worked together.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#89053: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:48:24 AM

doesn't Xenoverse show off how well their powers complement each other? tongue

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89054: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:56:05 AM

guys what if chichi joined the ginyu force

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#89055: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:24:16 AM

There'd have to be a lot of changes for that to happen. Chi-Chi should still have her personality before she became a mom, she has to go with the others to Namek, and Ginyu has to be impressed enough by her strength to ask, because she doesn't have any weird gimmicks.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89056: Oct 30th 2018 at 7:39:18 AM

her name is milk

and in the cell games saga she fucked a super saiyan and lived

so apparently, yes I googled it, the initial exit speed of the "average" human ejaculation is 28 Miles Per Hour. It slows down after that, obviously.

Dunno who measured it or how, what the methodology was. Not entirely sure I want to know. Sample sizes and a of other factors.

So if we take that average as a power level of 5, then Goku's power level of 150,000,000 when fighting Frieza as a Super Saiyan is 30,000,000 times stronger. Than an average human with a power level of 5.

30,000,000 times 28 is 840,000,000 miles per hour.

The speed of light itself is "only" around 670,616,629 miles per hour.

Other fun facts are that a human punch (of a pro boxer, so not average, dunno whether to give them a power level of 5 or 6 or what, Goku's PL was 10 when Bulma shot him and he lived) is 25 miles per hour, with one punch going up to 32 Mph.

Assuming a power level of 5, then 25 times 30,000,000 is 750,000,000.

Doing math with power levels is so fucking stupid you guys.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 30th 2018 at 11:17:08 AM

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#89057: Oct 30th 2018 at 8:08:24 AM

... I know you're joking, but I still have to state for the record that's not how math works.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89058: Oct 30th 2018 at 8:11:20 AM

Not a mathematician, please tell me what I got wrong.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#89059: Oct 30th 2018 at 8:18:46 AM

It's more that force and speed don't increase linearly like that.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89060: Oct 30th 2018 at 8:20:38 AM

I thought the point of power levels was that they did exactly that because nerds have a number fetish.

Anyway, force is mass times acceleration, and.

...Like, maybe Power Level increases your mass? Like, Roshi's Max Power, Frieza at 100%, Broly and Super Saiyan Grade 3 do that.

But I'd always assumed it increases acceleration. And that's how you punch harder.

My sincerest hope is that by going as low-brow as possible, I can prove once and for all that power levels are intrinsically stupid.

Argument to absurdity, only with cum.

Or at the very least ruin power levels for everyone here so nobody can think about them ever again without remembering this exact specific topic.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 30th 2018 at 12:46:50 PM

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#89061: Oct 30th 2018 at 11:36:52 AM

Nah, the problem here is that you're misinterpreting the premise of the question. It's "is Chi-Chi strong enough to join the Ginyu Force". At the time of the Ginyu Force, the last time Goku and Chi-Chi had an opportunity to be together was when he was in a hospital bed with a Power Level of just over 8,000 (he wouldn't have gotten stronger at this point since he hadn't recovered).

Goku's jizzum would be flying at about 44,800 miles per hour, and this is assuming that he's able to tap into his full power while in a full-body cast.

Of course, this also assumes that Goku doesn't suppress his power level down to normal levels any time he's banging his wife.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89062: Oct 30th 2018 at 11:39:28 AM

I'm pretty sure the speed of sound is, like, 767 mph? According to google?

So that's still pretty absurd.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89063: Oct 30th 2018 at 11:44:43 AM

...

Right. Time for something completely different.

I think I mentioned this before, but if Tien had attacked with the Shin Kikoho / Neo Tribeam a little sooner, he might have actually helped a bit in the fight.

Like, if he'd jumped in either while Piccolo or 16 were fighting Cell and used it to pin him down it might have bought more time or maybe even allowed 16 to figure out how to actually kill Cell.

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#89064: Oct 30th 2018 at 12:07:38 PM

Do any of the present fighters even had an attack capable of vaporizing Cell?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89065: Oct 30th 2018 at 12:26:22 PM

16 was about equal with him. If anyone stood a chance, he did, but it would have taken time. It's just that Cell was able to absorb 17 before he could wear him down enough to kill him.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89066: Oct 30th 2018 at 1:25:21 PM

Man, I missed a lot of things in Super I guess.

...Fuck me, I'm tearing up a little now.

I cried like a bitch when I saw that reunion scene with Gohan in Dragon Ball, and now just thinking about it I'm.

Man.

I honestly do love this awful fucking series.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 30th 2018 at 4:37:16 AM

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#89067: Oct 30th 2018 at 1:59:43 PM

You call it awful, you're a major fan.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89068: Oct 30th 2018 at 2:12:41 PM

Dragon Ball Evolution happened.

More than that, after a first outing that can most charitably be described as mediocre, Broly got 3 more fucking movies. And somehow the first two of those got worse. Jury's still out on quadro/the legendary Super reboot.

And then there's GT and Super.

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#89069: Oct 30th 2018 at 2:39:26 PM

Guldo was weak, but his powers were pretty OP.

Unlike Hit, everyone actually was frozen when he stopped time, power levels be damned.

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#89070: Oct 30th 2018 at 2:53:08 PM

Yep, his time stop ability was pretty cool, so was his telekinesis.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89071: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:23:03 PM

Telekinesis is one of the stronger powers in the series.

Higher power level or not, I've yet to see someone break out of it. We don't actually know if it can be broken through strength.

And it seems that Toriyama doesn't want to broach that subject either, since it's very rare.

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#89072: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:34:15 PM

Nappa was completely unaffected by Chaozu

It's implied to be the case with Tao Pai Pai as well

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#89073: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:40:15 PM

Explicitly the case in the anime, with Tao and Blue.

Kaioshin also notes that restraining SS2 Gohan was really hard, because he was so powerful. And in the Super manga, it was implied that Fused Zamasu's paralysis technique wouldn't do anything to Vegetto, ditto Future Zamasu's and SSB Goku. He waits until Goku drops down to SS1 to attempt it.

Chaozu's battle power was about 1/6 of Nappa's (610 vs 4,000) so the cut-off for where paralysis doesn't work should be at some point where the paralyzer is between 15% and 100% of the target's power.

That's a recurring thing in Dragon Ball. Any "haxx" can be overpowered with raw ki. Hit's time manipulation, Buu's transmutation, Chaozu's telekinesis, Porunga's teleportation, Babidi's mind control, Shenron's everything, and so on.

Wait, no, holy shit, Vegeta saying hes the "strongest in the universe" is a thought bubble. Part of his inner monologue.
The Saiyan arc's whole story really doesn't make any sense given the information we get later; in particular, literally every single thing Raditz said in his shocking monologue (except that Goku is a Saiyan and that Saiyans are warriors) was retconned. In a short special comic written by Toriyama for DB's 30th anniversary, Toriyama says through Freeza that he came up with Freeza to die in Vegeta's place after Vegeta proved unexpectedly popular. Which could explain why the former is such a Suspiciously Similar Substitute, down to the "strongest in the universe" title and being hyped up by Kaio.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Oct 30th 2018 at 4:47:18 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#89074: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:50:16 PM

Did Chiaotzu actually try to use his psychic powers on Nappa in the manga?

I got the impression that was only in the anime.

Also, as I understand it, Manga Tao killed Blue before he could even try to user Telekinesis on him, and it was only in the anime that he no sold it.

Gotta jog my memory on Guuldo's exact power level too. I know Krillin and Gohan were stronger than him, but not by how much. I can never keep track of it.

As for Supreme Kai, while he had difficulty holding Gohan, he still did (though he didn't do it for very long, whereas Guuldo held Krillin and Gohan for a few minutes with their visible efforts to escape having zero effect).

I still say Telekinesis is a pretty strong ability and we have yet to see anyone break out regardless of Power Levels. I will acknowledge that this doesn't mean it won't happen though.

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#89075: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:52:10 PM

Considering how much Goku bites his opponents throughout the series, has any game ever included biting as a move Goku can do?

He bit King Piccolo's thumb, Freeza's tail, Kid Buu's head, Beerus' tail, Golden Freeza's tail, and Whis' hand. 4 out of these 6 times was to make someone let go of grabbing his neck, so Goku biting as an anti-grab move seems like a good way to implement it.


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