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Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#89026: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:10:46 PM

The odd part is him leaving Cell in development if he shelved the whole thing.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#89027: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:13:53 PM

I don't know; that was before he found a way to make himself an Android. And, also, presumably before he deactivated 17 and 18 for being failures.

With (presumably) no longer having a natural lifespan he could wait it out and work on other things.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89028: Oct 29th 2018 at 5:50:47 PM

The weirdest thing I find about Dr. Gero is that he lives on a planet where the average power level seems to be 5, sees an alien with a power level of 18,000 show up, and thinks to himself "Nah, there's no reason to observe any of these guys going into space."

Also his computer picked up Frieza DNA and he never checked on that in three years. Not even a cursory glance!

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#89029: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:12:49 PM

It also raises a question as to how the Androids and Cell are stronger than the supposedly "strongest being in the universe"? I know its Dragon Ball and it could had been a boast by Freiza himself but are we supposed to buy that Earth always had these monsters?

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#89030: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:15:11 PM

All the while Majin Buu was sealed on earth too.

Earth is like a black hole of fuck ups and destruction in the Dragon Ball universe

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#89031: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:15:36 PM

No, you're not supposed to buy that, because that's not what happened.

If you want to quibble about how he made them so strong, that's one thing, but your just making up problems acting like the androids just happened.

Edited by LSBK on Oct 29th 2018 at 8:15:56 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#89033: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:25:31 PM

I'm curious, is Majin Buu a Perpetual-Motion Monster? Because neither of the three versions have ever gotten tired.

Piling up more things as to why Buu would have never been part of the TOP

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89034: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:28:43 PM

Well Super Buu was getting exhausted at the end of his battle with Gotenks.

I believe it was more mental fatigue due to how long the battle was dragging out & being overwhelmed by a superior opponent but it shows even Buu has a limit.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#89035: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:29:34 PM

Fat Buu got worn out when he was fighting Kid / Pure Buu.

It does seem to thing that Buu has incredible Stamina, and combined with his bubblegum body, he can take a large amount of punishment. He's likely a handful for even stronger opponents, unless they are exponentially stronger (which is usually the case since this is Dragonball).

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#89036: Oct 29th 2018 at 6:34:47 PM

It might be headcanon on my part, but I always assumed 19 and 20 were weaker than Final Form Frieza, especially given that Piccolo beats up 20 pretty easily (though I suppose he did have four years of training).

That said, considering 16, 17, and 18 are much stronger than Frieza and the highest power reading Gero could have seen before this is 180,000 from Ape Vegeta, that is some crazy overkill.

Edited by Hobgoblin on Oct 29th 2018 at 6:35:19 AM

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#89037: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:29:49 PM

[up] It actually would have been lower than even that given not only all of the damage Vegeta took during that battle (especially the Kaiouken x4 Kamehameha) but also because creating the power ball cost him enough energy that he felt the need to comment on it.

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#89038: Oct 29th 2018 at 7:31:24 PM

I'm curious, is Majin Buu a Perpetual-Motion Monster? Because neither of the three versions have ever gotten tired.
Toriyama says yes, probably:
Majin Boo is invincible, but where does he get his energy from?

He doesn’t particularly need energy.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89039: Oct 30th 2018 at 3:04:57 AM

The weirdest thing I find about Dr. Gero is that he lives on a planet where the average power level seems to be 5, sees an alien with a power level of 18,000 show up, and thinks to himself "Nah, there's no reason to observe any of these guys going into space."

In fairness, in the manga, Raditz and the other Saiyans constantly say they're the strongest warrior race, and I think at one point Vegeta screams he's the strongest in the universe.

Blame retcons.

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#89040: Oct 30th 2018 at 3:12:08 AM

On the subject of Gero's Androids being weirdly powerful, remember that Gero reads Yamcha's battle powers and thinks it's Goku's, expecting his strength to have risen to around that level. And as we see seconds later, Goku's expected power (Yamcha) was a level where the weakest Android could kill him just as easily as any random pedestrian. Totally powerless in comparison. So apparently it was fully Gero's intention to go with that level of overkill.

Edited by Kamiccolo on Oct 30th 2018 at 3:12:50 AM

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#89041: Oct 30th 2018 at 3:15:45 AM

There's no kill like several magnitudes of overkill.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89042: Oct 30th 2018 at 4:03:14 AM

Like, I can get being Vegeta how nice it might be to say I'm the strongest in the universe when I finally find a backwater that's so podunk they've never heard of Frieza.

Still kinda weird tho.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89043: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:08:53 AM

Wait, no, holy shit, Vegeta saying hes the "strongest in the universe" is a thought bubble. Part of his inner monologue.

What the shit.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#89044: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:09:56 AM

Clearly Vegetable likes hyping himself up in his mind.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 30th 2018 at 6:10:12 AM

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89045: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:28:37 AM

Like, even if Beerus, Whis, Buu and even Shin are considered cheating, there's still:

Freeza.

(Vegeta didnt know about Cold, which is weird with Cold being in the movie, and Cooler isn't canon probably yet. But anyway, Vegeta is like that "I dont know her" meme with Cold.)

Ginyu.

Jeice, Burter and Recoome.

(...How high is Guldo's power level actually? I know they say he's out of shape, but. So is Champa. There's a difference.)

Zarbon.

Dodoria.

And, exactly equal to Vegeta, we have Cui.

Like, technically Oozaru Vegeta at 180,000 would be stronger than all but Freeza, but.

The context of "I'm the strongest in the universe is that Kaioken x3 Goku at 24,000 just punched him in the gut and drew blood plus knocked the wind out of him.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89046: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:35:28 AM

Guldo shat bricks when Gohan and Kuririn tried to attack him with battle powers of over 10,000

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#89047: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:35:45 AM

He was having trouble with Gohan and Krillin, who were both over 10,000, so I'd say he's around that power level.

And Murasaki'd. [nja]

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Oct 30th 2018 at 9:36:07 AM

The legend has returned.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#89048: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:37:09 AM

Damn.

Did Ginyu only hire him because his name was yogurt? What the hell.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#89049: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:37:52 AM

it's because he had weird powers

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#89050: Oct 30th 2018 at 6:38:31 AM

He put him on the team for the debuffs. Poor guy has the worst dps, but can pump out paralysis like nobody's business.

Edited by Zeromaeus on Oct 30th 2018 at 9:38:43 AM


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