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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#88851: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:13:19 PM

With the androids, I think that Dr Gero was thinking No Kill like Overkill which is why they were so strong. This is probably why they're stronger in the present timeline-Goku's still alive to be the main focus of his overkill. 16 though, he's his Replacement Goldfish and might just want to have made him the most powerful being on Earth. Which he was up until Cell starting absorbing androids

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#88852: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:19:02 PM

I just find it funny that models 16 to 20 got progressively weaker.

Uni cat
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88853: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:40:22 PM

20 was stronger than 19.

Gero made his creations successively weaker because they were too powerful to control, until he finally had a success with 19. Then he made 20 to be a better version of 19.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#88854: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:42:14 PM

And then there was Cell, who started out weaker than them all but had the potential to become far stronger than all of them.

Until it turned out 17 apparently had even greater potential than Cell.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#88855: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:44:45 PM

17 did a Freeza training and now can challenge Blue or SSJ 3 depending on the continuity.

Uni cat
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#88856: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:48:16 PM

To be fair Cell didn't have the opportunity to train like 17 or Freeza did

Considering the DNA he's composed of, he could probably become stupidly powerful by training as many fanworks can attest to

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#88857: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:50:47 PM

I mean, I'm not sure why he thought power was why he couldn't control the kids he kidnapped.

Also, I think Toriyama might have done a retcon for everything with 16.

Like, Gero says 16 might be uncontrollable and kill him which. What.

It makes sense if you assume he's lying to 17 because he doesn't want 16 activated, to keep 16 safe, but. Both can't be true.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 25th 2018 at 8:00:01 AM

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
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#88858: Oct 25th 2018 at 4:54:54 PM

I still don't see why Gero didn't make himself as poweful as the teens, unless he was afraid that he would somehow betray himself.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#88860: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:02:50 PM

Someone make a "trust no one, not even yourself" picture with Gero in it.

Cell training.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88861: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:06:13 PM

Or that his brain wouldn't be able to control his robotic body. That's the only thing that makes (in-universe) sense.

@unnoun He tried some manner of 'programming' on them, so presumably making them too strong is what allowed them to retain their free will.

He probably decided on the 'too strong to control' aspect before he worked out just how much of the Androids was human vs mechanical

Until it turned out 17 apparently had even greater potential than Cell.

You know, it's funny, I thought you were talking about GT where Gero says that 17 was originally intended to be stronger than Cell.

Edited by Saiga on Oct 25th 2018 at 10:07:43 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88862: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:09:14 PM

[up] What they actually said that?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#88863: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:10:47 PM

Yeah, it's part of the justification for Super 17 even being a thing.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88864: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:12:00 PM

Man that's some old bullshit.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#88865: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:15:00 PM

Truly, 17 was always intended for great things.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#88866: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:16:44 PM

No matter the timeline 17 is destined to become stupidly powerful.

Except, hilariously enough, the timeline where he destroyed most of humanity only to get bodied by Super Saiyan Trunks.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Oct 25th 2018 at 8:16:58 AM

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#88867: Oct 25th 2018 at 5:19:21 PM

To be fair to future 17, he didn't train or have another 17 to fuse with

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Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#88868: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:00:02 PM

freiza went from less strong than super sayain to stronger than blue in 4 months. 17 had like 10 years of nonstop poacher punching

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#88869: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:04:02 PM

I dunno about stronger.

To think, all Freeza had to do is go from a power level of 120,000,000 to 1,300,000.

All that extra power level was weighing him down I guess.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#88870: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:09:57 PM

RIP 18, forever the weaker twin.

At least she got to kick Vegeta's ass. But even others managed to do that

Uni cat
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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#88872: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:20:37 PM

I mean, what I read is that 18 has some sort of "limiter" whatever, so depending on what thats translated from or what it means in the first place it could be as simple as. Taking a part out.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#88874: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:33:48 PM

Alright we know what that means.

Someone’s gotta kill Krillen again, any takers for his current life?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 25th 2018 at 6:34:45 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#88875: Oct 25th 2018 at 6:36:01 PM

That's a lot of sloppy seconds.

Sloppy thirds. Fourths?


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