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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87926: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:24:17 AM

At least no one died in Super.

Except Piccolo. And everyone on Earth that one time because of Freeza. and Trunks entire timeline.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 8th 2018 at 3:26:43 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87927: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:37:44 AM

Only one of those was really Goku's fault.

But yeah, Goku's complete lack of development (combined with his inability to learn or develop or for anything to have any sort of affect on him, along with how he's not even allowed to actually save the day anymore) have been a massive detriment.

While he's not the same person he was when this began, he's still managed to not change all that much, and that's only more clear as an adult.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#87928: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:51:48 AM

I don’t really expect much development from Goku in the first place

I just want to see the new generation rise up

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87929: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:56:02 AM

The one thing i really liked about Super is the slice of life parts. Call me weird but i adored that.

Then again, i like the side characters more than Goku and Vegeta.

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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87931: Oct 8th 2018 at 11:58:01 AM

We need more sports episodes.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#87932: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:28:10 PM

Likewise. The stretch of oneshots, character focus episodes and humor asides between Zamasu's defeat and the Tournament of Power is probably my favorite part of the series.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#87933: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:36:41 PM

I think these slice of life episodes really show how Vegeta has developed as a character, he really has come so far since his early days as a mook under Frieza's dime.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87934: Oct 8th 2018 at 12:39:09 PM

If only it happened in the plot too...

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#87935: Oct 8th 2018 at 1:00:46 PM

I loved watching Vegeta in the slice of life moments, like telling Piccolo about his Freud was Right opinion of Bulma. He loves the beautiful billionaire genius for her personality! Meanwhile Goku's personality went back to its roots. Pure and devoid of evil thoughts, sure, but also selfish, impulsive and bored. I love the irony of after Goku having been the pillar of justice throughout Z, Vegeta is becoming more and more like a potential Big Good, while Goku admits that he never saw himself as a hero.

It's hard to see where the story can go from here. My only request is that Vegeta should finally avenge his father and birth planet when Frieza inevitably comes back. Other than that... Goku is OP even without Zen-oh's call button. So I would suggest they scale down the enemies and make someone like Goten or Piccolo fight.

My internal fanfic idea is that a moon-sized comet comes and Bulma wants to make it our new moon, so she recruits Trunks to push and Piccolo because Kami brought the moon back once. For an added twist, this comet is inhabited by whomever killed the dinosaurs (or tried to, if we want to finally tackle that). Once that's over, we have eclipses to play with! Messed up Xenobiology is a bottomless well of excuses, after all!

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#87936: Oct 8th 2018 at 1:51:29 PM

That sounds uninteresting.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87937: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:06:53 PM

It's hard to see where the story can go from here. My only request is that Vegeta should finally avenge his father and birth planet when Frieza inevitably comes back. Other than that... Goku is OP even without Zen-oh's call button. So I would suggest they scale down the enemies and make someone like Goten or Piccolo fight.

I don't think they'll ever do the former. Toriyama wouldn't because people want to and he seems to deliberately prefer doing what people don't expect.

As for the second one, with the way Ki works, scaling down enemies wouldn't make them a threat, because having a higher ki means you are faster, stronger, and more durable (though naturally race advantages may also come into play).

Plus, scaling back an enemy so they'd be beatable by Piccolo or Gohan means it's even more likely that Goku could beat them, because if they are in the ball park of the latter two, then why do you need them when Goku can stomp them easily.

Of course, the logic that Goku has to specifically be the one to fight them is probably questionable in itself.

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#87938: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:25:31 PM

I meant introduce some new but weaker enemies while Goku and/or Vegeta are "training" somewhere "far away". (Freaking Instant Transmission messing me up already.) Or have something weird happen to the Saiyans, or just the pure blooded Saiyans, which keeps them from being the Big Damn Heroes in every arc.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87939: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:30:45 PM

...

I don't think Toriyama is interested in doing that.

Otherwise, he'd have done it already.

Despite our statement that Goku doesn't develop much, he seems to prefer him to everyone else.

He claims to not like Vegeta, but the latter has had a better arc than most of the characters barring Piccolo and Gohan, which is weird, but I guess there's something about Vegeta that makes him a useful writing tool.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87940: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:37:49 PM

this comet is inhabited by whomever killed the dinosaurs

Beerus claims he wiped out the Dinosaurs, but that makes no fucking sense because Dinosaurs are still alive on Dragon Ball's Earth.

Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#87941: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:40:34 PM

Back to the status quo, then. Piccolo, Gotenks, Gohan and the humans on the sidelines while Vegeta chases Goku chases Superman. At least the humor is good and the stakes were high up until now. It's the use of the cast that's my only major gripe.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87942: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:49:22 PM

Who is the strongest non-saiyan on earth btw? Half-saiyans don't count

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#87943: Oct 8th 2018 at 2:53:22 PM

Everyone knows its Tien. tongue

Edited by GAP on Oct 8th 2018 at 4:53:21 AM

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#87945: Oct 8th 2018 at 3:00:32 PM

Potentially Uub. Currently its either Buu or ToP VIP 17.

Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#87946: Oct 8th 2018 at 3:09:46 PM

I'd say Buu, followed by Piccolo, then 17, 18, Tien, and Krillin.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87948: Oct 8th 2018 at 3:21:05 PM
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#87949: Oct 8th 2018 at 4:00:33 PM

Oooohhhhh

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87950: Oct 8th 2018 at 5:01:27 PM

Man they are always naked in those posters. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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