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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#87626: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:04:32 AM

I have never seen Minus nor do I plan on it, but if that's going to be his canon backstory I'm going to be mildly annoyed. Especially since OG Bardock has been getting a LOT of positive attention lately.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87627: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:07:24 AM

Really, positive attention?

For a renegade? What has the world come to.

Edited by randomness4 on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:06:46 AM

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87628: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:08:20 AM

Minus is Toriyama, the special is Toei, and the Nile is not just a river in Egypt.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87629: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:08:56 AM

Now the Bardock special truly no longer fits in.

And the best parts of Goku’s origin got taken out.

Truly a dark day today.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:08:50 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87630: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:12:16 AM

is... looking a little less promising than before. I'm not normally a stickler for continuity, especially in Dragonball, but this is feeling like it's changing too much.

Not really. I mean, wasn't most of what we've see of Planet Vegeta filler?

Plus a lot of we saw in the trailer is from further back, from when Freeza first arrived.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87631: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:15:32 AM

[up][up] Never were canon to begin with, but whatever. You know you are allowed to like things that aren't the "right" one, right?

Fucking mentality of "what I like has to be the right thing". It is jarring with sports fans, but it ends up seeping into toxicity everywhere.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87632: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:16:59 AM

Liking the wrong thing doesn't make sense...

It's probably that.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87633: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:18:39 AM

[up]x2

Like people enjoyed the old films even though those were never meant as canon.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87634: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:18:50 AM

[up][up][up] But Minus is crap.

At least the Bardock special is a decent story with good animation. Minus has none of that.

Plus it retcons backstory elements that have in place for decades for something more...... uninteresting in comparison.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:18:22 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87635: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:19:44 AM

[up][up]Doesn't make sense if you are 13. Once you mature you learn you can like things for what they are.

[up] And this movie perhaps revisits the Minus stuff and makes it better. And, in any case, the Bardock special, while enjoyable, still has the same validity as the Broly movies, or Warth of the Dragon, or GT. Always had that.

Again, it was a piece of fiction more enjoyable than Minus. But Minus was Toriyama's take, while the special was filler. The place in canon was already decided years ago, so you shouldn't be surprised.

Edited by Eriorguez on Oct 4th 2018 at 7:22:34 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87636: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:20:36 AM

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, there is a chance the Father of Goku special can still happen.

Or not. But whatever, at least they should be fixing Broly.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87637: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:21:52 AM

[up][up] I’m currently 20 & I don’t like things for what they are now.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:24:14 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87638: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:22:43 AM

You like the OG Bardock movie...and accept that it is not canon, yes?

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87639: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:22:44 AM

[up]×5

You haven't seen the film, so you can't really say that with any certainty.

And again, we never saw much of Planet Vegeta.

Edited by Cortez on Oct 4th 2018 at 1:22:24 PM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87640: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:26:42 AM

[up][up][up] Well, 20 is still an adolescent nowadays; I know I still thought like a teenager back then.

And then there's the fact that plenty of people never really outgrow that stage.

Edited by Eriorguez on Oct 4th 2018 at 7:26:21 PM

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#87641: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:30:04 AM

Well the new trailer looks gorgeous.

... really unhappy with going full Superman. I mean... geez. Just... jesus. Have Goku get his prodigious strength from Cosmic Rays he absorbed in the flight, and reveal that Grandpa Gohan is the Immortal Iron Fist, and that Gohan's hidden potential is actually just Gamma Radiation while you're at it.

... actually wait. That's actually a little creative, as opposed "Goku is literally Clark Kent."

I'm hoping that it's actually Turles just to fuck with people who think making Bardock Jor-El is stupid.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87642: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:36:33 AM

A brilliant scientist indeed.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87643: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:37:24 AM

[up][up][up] Yeah this isn’t something I’ll grow out of & learn to see the wisdom in.

I genuinly don’t like this regardless of my age. I don’t see how maturity factors into this.

This isn’t even about the Bardock special anymore, it’s the fact Goku’s wonderful origin got molded into something more standard.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:37:42 AM

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#87644: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:38:11 AM

Yeah turning Goku into "literally Superman" just makes him infinitely less interesting as a character.

This song needs more love.
TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#87645: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:40:27 AM

Its kindof crazy how this movie keeps changing my expectations of it. First the teaser had me excited for it. Then the reveal that Broly was the foe in the trailer made me worried. Then the trailer made me excited because it looked like Broly might have some depth to him. And now it seems it's going to be at the cost of Bardock.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87646: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:40:29 AM

...

You guys are complaining about enjoying Dr. Flappe and Dr. Gero ruinning Android 8 for you.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#87647: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:42:29 AM

Huh? That's not the same situation at all.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#87648: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:42:30 AM

Dr. Gero actually made Eighter more interesting.

I mean if they can make Minus better with this, then fine, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

This song needs more love.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87649: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:43:11 AM

The Hell?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:45:40 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87650: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:43:22 AM

What does any of this has to do with how Karrot turned out...?

He still ended up the way he is from a head injury and everything following that.

Knowing his origins doesn't really matter.

Edited by randomness4 on Oct 4th 2018 at 10:46:19 AM

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