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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87601: Oct 4th 2018 at 8:42:07 AM

Freeza 2.0, but also Vegeta 3.0 and. King Piccolo 4.0.

...Majunior is really just King Piccolo 1.5.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87602: Oct 4th 2018 at 8:47:19 AM

So it seems the Ginyu force was around when Freeza arrived on Planet Vegeta.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87603: Oct 4th 2018 at 8:54:00 AM

Is Toku Sentai part of the legal trouble with the music? Because I really want Toku Sentai to come back.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:17:00 PM

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87604: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:13:41 AM

Why is Freeza naked?

No seriously, in Namek he had armor, and then the bio-armor that covered his torso that he is missing this time around?

Please don't make him look like Chilled, Chilled had an atrocious design.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87605: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:18:37 AM

I do hope Bardock and Freeza have a. Not fight, but confrontation. Like in the original Bardock special.

Freeza specifically remembers and has a flashback to Bardock when he sees Goku the first time in the manga.

Bardock's design in the Bardock special matches his design in the manga more than his redesign in this Broly movie.

"He looks just like the Saiyan who resisted until the end... when I destroyed Planet Vegeta!" Freeza says.

Instead of the shoulder pads like Raditz, Bardock in his one-panel manga appearance has the shoulder straps like the Saiyan Battle Armor in the Cell Saga.

The battle damage to the armor makes it so we can see Bardock's left nipple.

And he's wearing a headband.

In the Dragon Ball Full Color release the headband and Bardock's armor are basically colored like the special, and Planet Vegeta in the background is the same red color.

Of course, in Dragon Ball Minus.

Like, the thing people dont understand about the Dragon Ball Minus special is that it sorta ends on a cliffhanger?

Freeza says it will take him one month to get to Planet Vegeta from where he is. Around the time Bardock and Gine send Kakarot off.

The timeline is different from the Bardock special, because in that the events of the movie and Kakarot being sent off are concurrent.

But aside from that detail of "how does Kakarot get from Point A to Point B". The actual events of Planet Vegeta's destruction are kinda vague?

"Neither Freeza nor Goku knew that the Saiyan Freeza killed that day was Burdock... Goku' s father." we get told in a caption.

Which is a weird statement, Freeza killed a lot of Saiyans that day, but I guess Bardock was the only one face-to-face.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:20:53 PM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87606: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:19:43 AM

Wouldn't he look like this...?

Is that not how he looks in the trailer?

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#87607: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:20:33 AM

Also, hasn't Vegeta always been five years older than Goku?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87608: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:23:03 AM

4 years...?

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87609: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:23:30 AM

I mean, let's be fair, Saiyan growth spurts are weird according to the original Dragon Ball and the Jaco the Galactic Patrolman manga, and our Vegeta has always been short.

Him being the same height as the three year old characters dont mean much to me.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#87610: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:23:54 AM

Holy shit, Rando's right, they completely changed how Freeza looks in his first form with no armor.

What the fuck is with this movie.

[up] Not the height thing, but the fact that it looks like Vegeta is a baby when Goku is also a baby.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:23:53 PM

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87611: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:25:25 AM

I mean, the design changes are weird and inconsistent, but I still think they look good? Is that just me?

Every frame of this movie looks beautiful, to me at least.

Maybe that's just because of Super lowering my expectations tho.

[up] Vegeta and Goku arent shown side-by-side in their incubation pods, so I am making no assumptions on the timeline.

All we really know is that we see two scenes of Saiyan gestation incubators, one with Vegeta and one with Goku.

Trailers arent meant to show scenes in a linear, chronological order per se, just one that sets an expectation for tone and interest.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:27:14 PM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#87612: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:27:08 AM

I mean it looks pretty, but I'm always annoyed by inconsistency.

Although I do like the new design for King Vegeta, so I guess I'm a bit of a hypocrite.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87613: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:28:45 AM

So...the white part is just not actually apart of his body, apparently.

He looks the same otherwise.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87614: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:30:19 AM

I feel like there's going to be a lot of flashbacks, and maybe flashbacks within flashbacks.

If I'm right, there will be flashbacks to the day Vegeta got destroyed, and then on that day Vegeta Sr. and Bardock will have flashbacks about their sons.

Except Tarble and Raditz, who dont seem to be in the movie.

[up][up] I dont think we see King Vegeta in the manga. Just Bardock.

...And Xenoverse has a thing in the Freeza race equipment where some of the things that look like their body are actually "bio-armor" that they "wear" so.

Except there's still an inconsistency where Freeza, in the manga, in the flashback panel where he destroys Bardock and Vegeta, still basically looks like his first form.

And is wearing a battle armor chestpiece. Not topless.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:35:57 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87615: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:38:10 AM

Bardock's special, if you remove the part where Kakarot is present and sent to earth, can still work in canon if you want to. That's what i hope at least.

But you do see Frieza chucking the death ball towards Vegeta, without no Bardock in sight so i'm a bit bummered by that.

[up] Raditz appears on Minus. He should appear here too

Uni cat
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#87616: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:40:47 AM

Is... is that a little Frieza? I honestly can't tell.

Also screw Minus.

This song needs more love.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87617: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:42:13 AM

Drill Minus...

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87618: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:42:56 AM

...I forget, did Toriyama write and draw the panels of Freeza remembering Bardock before or after the special?

What was the cause and effect there?

[up] I wish.

A dril tweets version of dragon ball would be amazing.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 4th 2018 at 12:43:22 PM

TwistedGear Don't know how to pilot this thing Since: Jun, 2014
Don't know how to pilot this thing
#87619: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:45:50 AM

This is... looking a little less promising than before. I'm not normally a stickler for continuity, especially in Dragonball, but this is feeling like it's changing too much.

On the plus side Gine finally getting an English voice is something good that might come out of this. I was spiteful of Gine when I first heard about her, but over time I grew to like her more, because at least her withdrawing from battle adds something to the story instead of taking something away. I was hoping if they made her part of the anime that they'd return Bardock back to his more aggressive self, not seeing that here. Did no-one tell Toriyama that minus wasn't well received? Or was it actually popular in Japan?

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87620: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:46:57 AM

After the special if i recall.

Boy, do i have to use my method to how i canonize Dragon Ball story like i did with Super again? Jeezums

Uni cat
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87621: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:51:18 AM

Damn It!

Fucking Hell Minus is in! Fuck, fuck, fuck, FUCK! sad

That’s it no more, Goku you are officially a borderline rip-off of Superman & your parents are Jor & Lara-lite.

Well that makes since considering Superman is a far superior character than you can ever be now.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 4th 2018 at 9:50:40 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#87622: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:52:30 AM

Over-The-Top

You are the OTT, cool.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87623: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:54:19 AM

Yep, i think i will take my usual approach of taking as canon to what i like tonguetonguetongue

Also, crack theories are already popping up. One that i heard is that the redesign of King Cold could hint at Cooler being a thing

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87624: Oct 4th 2018 at 9:56:15 AM

You can tell who was a teenager fan by their reactions to Minus.

Anyway, technically first form Freeza without armor and underwear looks like this (and now you know from where Cell got his crotch), but his species can grow biological armor that is removable. Hell, IIRC final form Freeza is supposed to be wearing a biosuit anyway.

So Freeza may be in his first form without his Namek-era bioarmor.

Also, nice to see King Cold. And no signs of Cooler (AKA the other Movie guy who gets attention).

Edited by Eriorguez on Oct 4th 2018 at 6:59:46 PM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87625: Oct 4th 2018 at 10:03:34 AM

Holy shit, Rando's right, they completely changed how Freeza looks in his first form with no armor

Probably because he's younger. He doesn't look like he has his white shell yet.


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