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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87551: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:23:34 AM

[up] Around that time they dropped the plot point about needing to have the bodies around so people could be revived.

Otherwise Krillin and Chiatzou would have been gone for good.

[up][up][up] Yeah...that sword.

If Future Trunks defeated Hirudegarn...why are the androids still a problem? Yeah not going to bother with his one

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 2nd 2018 at 3:24:21 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87552: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:24:27 AM

Namek Dragon.

It remembers the hands.

Being serious, I don't think Porunga has that limitation. He'll revive you exactly as you'd want to be revived (with both hands, in one piece, no holes in your chest, etc).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87553: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:24:39 AM

When they resurrect Frieza in Resurrection F he's still sliced into cubes.

Also, maybe Future 17 and 18 helped defeat Hirudegarn.

It isnt clear when Future Trunks would have gotten the sword, considering our Trunks is still Kid Trunks when he gets it, so maybe it was a team up between 17, 18, Gohan and Trunks.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 2nd 2018 at 2:29:36 PM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87554: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:25:24 AM

[up] Because fuck him.

Android 17 was resurrected in Earth somehow, even though he died in King Kai's planet

Edited by fasoman1996 on Oct 2nd 2018 at 3:28:43 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87555: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:27:02 AM

[up][up]

That was Shenron, not Porunga. He has the limit that not reviving in a year causes you to be revived as your were.

So Freeza is Freeza cubed.

Edit: [up]Technically he died on Earth when Cell was killed by Gohan (since the latter didn't really die on King Kai's planet and 17 was part of him).

Edited by HandsomeRob on Oct 2nd 2018 at 12:30:08 PM

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87556: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:29:47 AM

I mean, in that case 17 would have been killed by Gohan.

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#87557: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:31:29 AM

I think I read a fanfic/theory once that involved that premise

Basically Trunks still met Tapion like his present counterpart, the difference here is that he actually killed Tapion like he was asked to, killing hirurdergan as well, then he keep Tapion sword

At least that's how it goes, don't know if that makes sense or is good

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87558: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:32:20 AM

Trunks does have a habit of being actually effective, so I could see that happening.

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#87559: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:37:18 AM

Around that time they dropped the plot point about needing to have the bodies around so people could be revived.

Nope, King Kai states that Kami made Chiaotzu a new body when they all went to his planet.

Krillen on the other hand I think was just forgotten about, maybe? I haven't seen Krillen's revival scene in forever.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#87560: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:38:29 AM

The anime messed up the revival scenes.

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#87561: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:42:29 AM

So what would happen if someone revived Cell with the earth Dragon Balls? He was vaporized by Gohan last time i checked.

I mean, so was Frieza and he came back as chunks so i don't know what's the deal with that.

@Rob Most sources i checked claim that 17 died when Cell blew himself up. If he still had 17 inside when he came back as Perfecter Cell, does that mean he had another 18 inside him too?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87562: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:43:28 AM

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Yeah, but that's because it tried to have the actual revival scenes, whereas Toriyama just described them apparently and never bothered to show them.

They did screw up though.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87563: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:49:38 AM

From what I can tell, for example, the reason Future Goku couldn't be brought back with the Namekian Dragon Balls after he died of the Heart Virus is because he would still have it when he got brought back and he'd just have another heart attack and die again.

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#87564: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:50:33 AM

and Dragon Balls can't cure disease right?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87565: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:52:37 AM

I think it's also because they couldn't actually find New Namek. I mean, nobody could.

Freeza's army spent years looking for it and failed.

And since King Kai just fucked off in the future and never tried to communicate with them at all, they had no way to figure out where it was.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87566: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:54:55 AM

They could probably cure disease if you made the wish before the person died of it.

Pretty sure they cant cure Goku of the disease after he died because he wouldn't have it anymore then.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#87567: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:55:17 AM

Dragonballs can't revive someone who died of natural causes. I assume disease would fall under that, unless when they say "natural causes" they specifically mean "old age".

Edited by LSBK on Oct 2nd 2018 at 1:55:37 PM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87569: Oct 2nd 2018 at 11:58:50 AM

I mean, from what I gather, they bring you back to the point you were before you received your final, mortal wound.

Or, at least, they should. Tien's arm sorta. Ruins my understanding there. So maybe I'm wrong, or somebody fucked up.

Anyway, a disease is a process, and a long one, where a lot of things shut down, one after the other, slowly.

Anyway, from there. My interpretation is that Freeza being diced into cubes isn't actually what killed him.

...Especially since one of Freeza's cubes can open its eye and they seem to try to go back together before Sorbet gathers them.

In the anime, King Cold seems to be alive when Trunks blows a hole in him, and apparently Freeza survived for. Weeks? Months? Less than a year. Between fighting Goku and getting found by his father and operated on to go to Earth. In the vacuum of space, in the remains of Namek.

Also sliced in half.

Durable motherfucker.

Can't seem to regenerate without a healing pod though.

Edited by unnoun on Oct 2nd 2018 at 3:10:57 PM

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#87570: Oct 2nd 2018 at 12:10:36 PM

If Future Trunks defeated Hirudegarn...why are the androids still a problem? Yeah not going to bother with his one

Maybe the same temporal nonsense that boosted 17 and 18's power in the main timeline also made Hirudegarn much stronger than he was originally.

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#87571: Oct 2nd 2018 at 12:10:53 PM

Frieza is easily the most durable fucker around without regeneration.

Cut down in half, blasted by a Super Saiyan, A planet explosion and he still survived. He then had to be cut to pieces and vaporized to finally be killed for real.

Makes you wonder how powerful was that Kamehameha that Goku used to kill him in the Resurrect F movie

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#87572: Oct 2nd 2018 at 12:16:55 PM

The vacuum of space is pretty nasty too.

Cold as fuck, and radiation everywhere without any form of barrier of protection. Parts of you cooking from the radiation while other parts freeze and break off.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87573: Oct 2nd 2018 at 12:37:05 PM

Anyway, from there. My interpretation is that Freeza being diced into cubes isn't actually what killed him.

I believe that one is actually confirmed. It was Trunks vaporizing him that finally killed him. Right up until that last moment, he was still alive.

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#87574: Oct 2nd 2018 at 1:01:11 PM

You all are debating how Tien was revived with his arm intact but you forget this:

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#87575: Oct 2nd 2018 at 1:20:23 PM

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