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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87426: Sep 28th 2018 at 3:19:29 PM

@unnoun Two pages ago, you mentioned bacteria having ki. That reminds me of a great fanfiction I read, more specifically, a single scene. This is the fanfiction in question, if you want to read it before I summarize the story. I recommend it, it's good.

The fanfiction stars Chi-Chi, and it's set between the Cell and Buu arcs. Basically, the government has been using miniature surveillance drones to spy on the Z Warriors, and Taopaipai has convinced them that they are a threat to Earth. They capture Chi-Chi and reveal to her that her child is an alien, which of course she already knows.

The plot is basically special forces vs Z Warriors, and obviously the story has to nerf how powerful these characters are in order for it not to be a complete curbstomp, but the writing is so good that it's easy to look past it. They REALLY nerf them, though, Yamcha is nearly beaten by a tranquilizer and a team of trained soldiers with tasers, and Piccolo is critically injured by a forest fire.

The climax of the story involves Chi-Chi escaping from confinement and engaging Taopaipai in combat. They're about even in terms of skill, but Taopaipai has robot durability, strength, and stamina. All seems almost hopeless until Chi-Chi taps into a well of power she never knew she had and overwhelms Tao, and they later explain that power-up was Chi-Chi draining the ki out of the microorganisms living inside her body.

Sorry if that was rambly and all over the place, but I love this fanfiction and I also haven't slept in 29 hours.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 28th 2018 at 3:22:03 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87427: Sep 28th 2018 at 3:34:36 PM

I read it, liked it, but I forgot the forest fire. Personally, I'd have incapacitated Piccolo with a whistle.

I also once read a fic where Pilaf beat Vegeta with some sorta super pepper spray aerosol to inflame his Saiyan sense of smell.

Get some sleep.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 6:34:10 AM

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#87428: Sep 28th 2018 at 3:49:19 PM

Story sounds hilarious if its set after Cell's death.

Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
#87429: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:06:40 PM

http://auroblaze.tumblr.com/post/178553382219/pochqmqri-with-this-i-too-nappa

And now Nappa joins in the super crown craze

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#87430: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:09:07 PM

That is....

Terrible. Absolutely terrible. There is no amount of nerfing that would explain why Post-Kamiccolo Piccolo could be injured by Earthly fire. No. Bad. All bad.

My various fanfics.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#87431: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:28:01 PM

Plus it just makes you wonder why the military couldn't deal with Cell themselves, at any point in the Saga.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#87432: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:29:48 PM

They should just buy laser rings from Frieza's army. They pack enough punch to defeat SSGSS Goku.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87433: Sep 28th 2018 at 4:34:17 PM

The fact that Solar Flare keeps fucking working makes me think suped up flashbangs might do the job. At least for a moment.

Some sleeping gases might work. Some gases are toxic. Fuckers need to breathe.

...Except Freeza and Buu.

Saiyan stomachs being what they are I'm not sure what ingested poisons would work. Or in what dosage.

But the lungs are basically just gasbags that go almost straight to the bloodstream.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 7:39:49 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87434: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:11:26 PM

We know poison doesn't work on Beerus, but that's probably a perk of being a God of Destruction.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87435: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:13:07 PM

Beerus can breathe in space, but can Dyspo?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87436: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:14:07 PM

Beerus may be able to get food poisoning.

Though the only example of that is the Dr. Slump crossover episode so take that with a grain of salt.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87437: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:14:59 PM

I mean, there's also the Supreme Kai of Time's cooking in Xenoverse.

Anyway, even if Beerus won't die from it, shitting Himself for a few hours is probably unpleasant and might keep Him away from you for those few hours.

If He knows you're the one responsible for poisoning Him, He'll destroy you afterwards, but some people might be okay with that if they accomplish some other objective.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 9:23:17 AM

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#87438: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:24:28 PM

I wonder if Toppo is would be immune too or if He's still technically mortal.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87439: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:27:57 PM

I mean, even Beerus can be defeated by wasabi, so. If you think about it.

Also, Whis insisting on him brushing his teeth might mean he can get cavities. Or gingevitis.

Maybe the bacteria in his mouth have godly ki too.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 9:32:33 AM

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#87440: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:54:51 PM

We know poisons work on Goku and Gohan.

I can buy a forest fire being deadly since that would eat up a lot of oxygen.

Edited by Moth13 on Sep 28th 2018 at 9:57:13 AM

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87441: Sep 28th 2018 at 6:58:58 PM

Yeah. The burns wouldn't necessarily be the problem.

Smoke could be.

EDIT: Also, as of Battle of Gods none of the Saiyans had power levels in their base forms that approached Frieza at 100% on Namek.

So really, the Androids could have just killed them in their sleep.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 10:10:09 AM

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87442: Sep 28th 2018 at 7:42:49 PM

Better call Krillin and Dende so we start working on those Zenkais

Uni cat
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87443: Sep 28th 2018 at 7:55:39 PM

Haven't read the story, but if there's one thing that's been beaten into my skull by DB, it's that...you can't just use strategy.

If you don't have the same level of ki, you're not even a player. You can't use clever tricks or well place tech to beat these guys. You can't.

This is why I don't read many DB fics: there's not much room for interpretation of battle powers. Only Ki matters. Only how much you have matters.

Well ok, technically, if you are close enough to the other guy, tricks and strategy might mean something. Vegeta was beaten through ganging up on him and wearing him down, and weaker fighters attacking vulnerable points.

That's very rare though, and it took a ridiculous amount of luck for all that to work, and many things still went wrong (Vegeta going Oozaru; knocking away the spirit bomb; jumping Krillin's kienzan, surviving the Spirit Bomb, etc).

But you can't have normal humans beat the Z Warriors with fancy trick sand shit. It won't work, and any story that claims otherwise doesn't understand how things in this series work.

This is why it's better to do more quiet moments in DB. There's lot of room for interpretation there.

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#87444: Sep 28th 2018 at 8:13:44 PM

It's fanfiction dawg, you can do whatever you want with the setting in your own universe.

Besides. Laser gun taking out Super Saiyan Blue is a thing that happened. As much as you might want to pretend it didn't. It's out there. Forever.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#87445: Sep 28th 2018 at 8:17:25 PM

Solar Flare and Kienzan has been historically referred as a Combo that only insane regeneration counters. A huge part of the cast would die to it. Krillin is secretly broken, that's why Toriyama made him human.

I think there is some room to strategy but it's reaaaaaaaally small. At best you can be smart and use your wits to convince a dangerous foe to do something else or even slow them down, but once that fails it's all gone to shit.

The last points are basically Super Buu in a nutshell.

Uni cat
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#87446: Sep 28th 2018 at 9:04:24 PM

Well, we all seemed to agree that since Super Saiyan Blue piercing laser is dumb, that it doesn't count.

But I'm not getting into this. I've gone back on forth on Rule of Cool vs consistency too often myself.

This wouldn't be a problem if the rules were so constricting, but there you go.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#87447: Sep 28th 2018 at 9:12:45 PM

It seems Gods if Destruction can let themselves go or be affected by things that cause poor health, but not in a way that seriously impedes them.

Like how Champa is explicilty out of shape, but it’s only a thing when it’s funny. In serious situations, he’s still exactly as strong and capable as Beerus.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#87448: Sep 28th 2018 at 9:22:45 PM

Makes you wonder how strong he’d be if he actually got in shape.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 28th 2018 at 9:22:07 AM

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#87449: Sep 28th 2018 at 11:23:24 PM

You know, in a world where half-saiyans are a thing, i'm a lot more intrigued about Marron.

Supposedly 18 is altered in a genetically level, that's why she is so strong and her mechanical enhancements aren't as prevalent so it makes me wonder if that somehow affected Marron in some way. I would factor Krillin, but his powers don't come from genes like saiyans do.

I wouldn't ask this question if it weren't for that one comment 18 made when she left Marron with Goten and Trunks and stated that she was tougher than she looked.

Uni cat
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#87450: Sep 28th 2018 at 11:24:02 PM

Slept. Feel better. Despite that fanfiction being written in 2003, post-Kami Piccolo being injured by a forest fire actually isn't very implausible, considering Super established that Vegeta still needs to be careful around lava and Goku can't take the temperatures of the Earth's mantle.


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