Is it Krillin's harem or 18's at that point?
Goku and 18 are only ones 21 interacts with with anything like even potential romantic interest.
And Im surprised you didnt bring up Mr. Satan. Keeping the two Buus together.
I dont know how I'd feel if she replaced Buuby, but with the inevitable housewifification I'm prepared for it.
In fairness, a big chunk of her character motivation is wanting a family, I guess because it's part of the memory and love and leftover feeling of Gero's wife or whatever.
Honestly, for me Im honestly more annoyed by the female characters who had interests outside of domestic life that get shoved into the housewife slot anyway.
It's not Chichi getting married and having a family that bothers me, because she wouldn't shut up about it in Dragon Ball. It's Videl and 18 being stay at home house wife moms that I find more irksome.
Especially when Videl explicitly wanted to be a police detective and then Krillin becomes a cop for no fucking reason.
It's just bizarre to me how the only character that comes out seemingly mostly unscathed by motherhood is Bulma.
Didnt the episode where Vegeta tries to cook say that Bulma herself is a terrible cook, and she can only get good food by buying it? I like that.
And I wish Videl was more like that in Super, because she was a rich city girl with an in-house chef and a butler and shit too.
Videl should be a cop, and Piccolo should be Pan's nanny. Taking care of the house chores and cooking using the multiclone technique and stretchy arms.
Everyone already knows that Piccolo is best for the job anyway.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 12:31:18 PM
I can understand 18 wanting to settle down since her life wasn't exactly easy. Videl on the other hand is a tragedy, her Chickification is a crime, even worse than Gohan suggesting her to cut her pigtails. Goddammit Gohan.
As for your question about 21 regarding Krillin/18. Yes. And somehow i even forgot about Buu, just like Toei
Uni cat...Come to think about it, I actually think Bulma has come out the best in Super. Of all the female characters in the cast.
There's a sort of ruthless pragmatism to Bulma in Super I really love, with the way she bribes Whis and Beerus and the way she threatens and blackmails Jaco. There's this sense that Bulma is willing to do anything to get what she wants, whether it takes charm, force, or throwing her money around, and it rings true to her character as introduced when she ran a kid over, shot him, and then tried to flash him to get him to give her what she wanted.
In the Buu arc, she mostly seemed to end up at the same "rar naggy scary angry housewife" cliche as Chichi, only smarter and with science instead of country bumpkin. Which doesn't fit with Bulma as well, to my mind, because she's not a martial artist? Chichi is, at least in theory, even if not very long, and even if she retired. It's not hard to imagine a time in her life where she used brute force to solve all her problems. We actually see that time in Dragon Ball, when she attacks a dinosaur, and Yamcha, and even Goku and Roshi.
If Chichi's under stress, her resorting to that habit is easy to imagine. The joke is that she's left so far behind that her efforts should be useless, but people still treat it like they're scared.
There's probably a way to work into writing that part of that is why she wants Gohan to study: She was trained as a fighter and it's proven basically useless to her.
But for Bulma, resorting to violence is. I mean, not with her bare hands, it might mess up her nails. Using a gun, maybe, but more likely she has someone else around to use violence for her.
So yeah. It's honestly weird, but I think Bulma comes out looking better in Super than she did even in Buu. To me, at least.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 12:59:49 PM
I think it's just that Toriyama likes Bulma, and is more willing to accommodate her character.
She's been part of the show in some form or another since the very inception, and unlike Chi-Chi who was brought back with a completely different personality as a massive Brick Joke, or Launch who's entire character was built on a joke, or 18 who was created because the the two guys who were supposed to be the villains were considered lame, or even Videl who just seemed to exist to be Gohan's girlfriend, Bulma has always had a role in the plot in some way, even if only small.
Hell, Toriyama went out of her way to make her blameless for the Yamcha break up because he obviously liked her more.
One Strip! One Strip!Bulma in Super is one massive middle finger to the idea that you need to strong to be relevant and I love it.
This song needs more love.I also like how she's mean and selfish and petty at points. Especially to Jaco. Who, yeah deserves it. But it still shows off how compatible she and Vegeta are. Which I weirdly like.
...Back to 21, I brought up this idea on the DBZA thread, but the part where, apparently, Android 21 was made of the actual physical body of Gero's wife that then had cells from other beings added and fused into its cells.
This is interesting to me because. It indicates that the writers of Fighter Z, at least, do know what cells are? Compared to DNA? And that Android 21 and Cell's descriptions are both accurate to the authorial intent, that they're bio-androids based on cellular-level design, not genetic.
It's just that somehow Android 21 makes the concept even more batshit ridiculous and impossible scientifically than Cell was, which is honestly impressive.
Cells dont work that way, except in Dragon Ball. Apparently.
...What I dont get is, since Buu could regenerate from any piece, even smoke, how do you collect Buu cells without the cell just. Absorbing the drone. Or the human body you add it to. And then it takes Buu's original personality and brings back Buu.
But anyway. In hindsight, it makes Cell really interesting as a proof of concept for cellular engineering? A test bed for Gero's wife.
Which, given that Evil!21 has that cool purple form with Cell's spots when she aborbs him in route 3. Adds a complication to the Cell arc that I, personally, like.
I'm pretty sure 17 says in the Android arc that he was the ultimate android made by Doctor Gero, only for him to get proven wrong by Cell, who was told the same thing.
Adding a third ultimate android, designed to absorb Perfect Cell. I don't know why I like it, but I do? Rule of Three.
It makes sense of why Cell didn't have a number.
Of course, Toriyama's editor probably wouldn't have liked her Majin design. Which, I personally don't either especially compared to her red ribbon design.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 1:56:35 PM
Her being the physical body...not sure if it was really confirmed, but it makes sense. We know he can alter the bodies based on what he did to 17 and 18.
As for incorporating the Buu Cells...who knows. Maybe one of his drones nabbed something before he got completely destroyed. There were multiple points where Buu was completely blown to bits.
Alternatively, there's currently a version of Buu who's hanging around right now that drones could get cells from.
Though it's clear that Gero's computer or whatever couldn't completely grasp Buu, since it's that part of her that's driving 21 insane.
Cell may not have been as powerful, but he was far more stable....mentally. Morally speaking, he was a prick.
Edit: As for her design, I can see how the Bubblegum MILF wouldn't appeal to some people.
I don't think Toriyama would have done it that way if he'd been behind it. He's not really much of a Waifu or Fanservice guy. It's not that he can't draw cute ladies, but I suspect he'd have gone with as atypical a design for her as possible on general principle...or just done a male character.
Edited by HandsomeRob on Sep 28th 2018 at 11:59:19 AM
One Strip! One Strip!I mean, I think I read somewhere that she has Kid Buu cells which. Makes no sense for a lot of reasons, partly because Kid Buu blows up the Earth shortly after becoming Kid Buu again. I can buy Gero's backup backup lab coming back with everything they already collected when Porunga brought back the planet Earth, but. It's still weird to think about.
And wasn't there a wish to wipe everyone's memories of Majin Buu? If someone took a polaroid photo or a candid of Buu during his rampage, so they would know what Fat Buu looked like, would that get erased too? Along with text in the newspapers or TV broadcast tapes?
What about data in a computer, like Gero's?
But I think to me the bigger reason Kid Buu doesn't make sense to me is that as far as I can tell or remember Kid Buu doesn't get hungry. I don't remember Kid Buu ever using the candy beam. Candy and sweets and food just. Aren't Kid Buu's thing. Hell, Kid Buu only absorbs South Supreme Kai and then Grand because they were using attacks that could destroy him and he felt threatened. And as far as I can tell, Grand Supreme Kai is the one that liked sweets.
Then the Kidd Buu thing has to be an error.
It's obvious she got the material from Fat Buu, because as you said. Kid Buu don't care about eating.
He just wants to fuck shit up and laugh while doing it. So yeah, Kid Buu isn't an option.
That being said, Fat Buu still has the potential to become Kid Buu, which explains her crazy. She's not as good at curbing that dark nature as he is, being a mortal and all, and the insatiable hungry doesn't help.
One Strip! One Strip!Maybe 21 had Super Buu cells. That would make a lot more sense than having Kid Buu cells.
theoretically, the machine would have snatched the cells when Super Buu was blown once (Take the scene where he makes a guy drink him until he explodes) and that was used when building 21.
It doesn't make sense because Super Buu no longer exists if you remove the Fat Buu component from Kid Buu but who knows, Dragon Ball rarely explains its plot.
Uni catNo. He probably would have just come up with a male assistant or something like that.
I mean, Toriyama tends to default to male in general.
One Strip! One Strip!I think if Kid Buu ever did use the candy beam he'd just step on or ki blast the candy.
When I think of Kid Buu. Like, if he had an ice cream cone, he'd take one lick of the ice cream and then smush it in someone's face. That's the sort of character he is.
Especially if it's ice cream from that someone's mom.
Then blow them up.
Fat Buu and Super Buu would just eat the ice cream. Only Super Buu might monologue about it.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 3:00:10 PM
Kid Boo eats the candy Fat Boo makes...
And he does in a reaaaaaaally threatening way...
Doesn't even look as if it's supposed to be delicious...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Yeah, but he doesn't make his own.
Plus, Kid Buu is bug fuck crazy. He'd do anything because he can.
I mean, with only 8 people on the entire planet (and one puppy) he still decided to destroy the entire thing because he wanted to.
One Strip! One Strip!He's an actual planet buster...
It's not a level of power scale, it's what he is...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Kid Buu is an embodiment of Chaotic Evil and Destruction, of course the second there is nothing to do on earth he is going to blow it the fuck up.
Have they ever said what was the motivation behind Buu's wanton destruction? Generic Doomsday Villain? Or something else?
Uni catApparently he's an eldritch abomination that wasn't actually created by Bibidi even though Supreme Kai said he was, and existed since time immemorial destroying things, hibernating and then destroying things again. Bibidi just learned how to put him to sleep with a spell and then used that to control him.
Didnt really work as far as "control" goes until Buu absorbed Grand Supreme Kai. With Kid Buu all Bibidi could really do was unseal him then run away and reseal after he was done.
Apparently Kid Buu before Bibidi was basically Lavos.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 4:08:09 AM
In Xenoverse 2, Beerus claims that he predates Kid Buu, but who knows frankly.
I saw a fanfic
where Beerus made Buu to do his job for him, so Beerus could nap more. Which, I mean, I wouldnt disbelieve. Lazy bastard.
Edited by unnoun on Sep 28th 2018 at 4:27:05 AM

If good 21 stuck around with the Z Warriors, who would she actually live with?
Do we have her in Capsule Corp like everyone else? Kami's lookout? Living with Krillin do he can expand his Android harem?
Uni cat