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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87351: Sep 24th 2018 at 8:40:52 PM

I guess some people like to see Vegeta get his ass kicked? I like that quite a lot.

Of course, it gets old after the 10th times, but it's still hilarious. And depressing.

Edited by fasoman1996 on Sep 24th 2018 at 12:40:29 PM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87352: Sep 24th 2018 at 8:43:29 PM

I don't know.

I doubt there wouldn't have been some fodder.

I imagine a lot of them would have been just eliminated in a preliminary round in one shot. Though maybe I'm selling Toriyama short on this one.

The real question is, if he had the chance to develop and work with them more, would he? That's the answer to your question I think.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#87353: Sep 24th 2018 at 9:40:08 PM

Apparently after Goku and Fu defeated Super Oozaru Cumber in Universe Mission 4, Fu thought of this idea: "A Saiyan turns into an Oozaru by being exposed to the Blutz Waves that come from the Moon... So, what would happen if he was hit by a reversed-phase wave, cancelling the Blutz Waves? Implode and Mix!"

Like... what even is the opposite of Oozaru?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#87354: Sep 24th 2018 at 9:52:46 PM

Saiyan Capuchin?

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#87355: Sep 25th 2018 at 3:30:29 AM

IMO, the To P would have worked best as a multi-stage tournament: Still 10 participants per universe, and all representatives of an universe fighting together (so no 1v1 fights), BUUT:

  • Only 2 universes fight at the time.
  • The universe who loses all their fighters loses and is deleted, its opponent moving on.
  • If a fighter is eliminated, it means they are out for the entire tournament.

So we could start with Universe 7 fighting 9, and eliminating it but losing Krillin and Tien in the process, and the finals of course would be 7 vs 11 (or rather, Goku/Vegeta/Freeza/17/Gohan vs Jiren/Top/Dyspo)... We could even have a damn fine semifinal with 6 vs 11...

Them being 8 universes fighting means we get a bracket similar to the Tenkaichi Budokai is just icing on the cake.

fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87356: Sep 25th 2018 at 10:18:02 AM

Sooooo, do you think Toriyama will try adding Android 21 to canon in the near future?

I mean, sure it took Broly a couple years to become canon, but he was a Base-Breaking Character so there was some issues about him. However, i think 21 being universally beloved is a good sign in her favour.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87357: Sep 25th 2018 at 10:21:33 AM

I believe it's been said that if she's popular enough that she could make it in.

I hope if they do, they portray the good 21 vs evil 21 fight in the same hilariously manner of Goku's fight with Pure Buu...or Fat Buu for that matter.

You all know why. And I ain't gonna deny it either.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#87358: Sep 25th 2018 at 3:04:52 PM

That was said by FighterZ's lead developer, and he was being hopeful, not Toriyama.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87359: Sep 25th 2018 at 6:42:49 PM

I mean, Toriyama had 16 as Gero's son and 17 becoming a park ranger with three kids (two of which adopted, the third presumably biological) and a zoologist wife in the same interview stuff.

Adding 16's mom/Gero's wife is just a weird decision for the game developers to make, honestly, because. Like, why would they or anyone care about that fucking Toriyama interview.

Unrelated, I've seen a lot of nerds adding Faulconer music to Super and the new movies, but thinking about that, am I the only one that wants, like, a remix of Makafushigi Adventure for a fight scene?

Like, maybe a rock remix, or orchestral, or in a different key or something, but. Going for that Dragon Ball nostalgia would be neat in my opinion. Especially since Japan doesnt actually make the distinction between the two.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#87360: Sep 25th 2018 at 6:43:44 PM

Does Goku want to know defeat again?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87361: Sep 25th 2018 at 6:52:47 PM

Wasn't that the plot of Battle of Gods?

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#87362: Sep 25th 2018 at 8:04:08 PM

has goku never not known defeat in super?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87363: Sep 25th 2018 at 9:42:48 PM

Z and Super are pretty much the Goku fails 90% of the time show honestly.

Well, ok, Z is the Goku isn't actually the one who kills the Big Bad of the arc show, while Super is the Goku fails show.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87364: Sep 25th 2018 at 10:32:20 PM

Karrot can't win...?

Oh snap, I almost messed up for real...

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#87365: Sep 26th 2018 at 9:03:52 AM

You're right, Goku never killed anyone in Z until Kid effin' Buu.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#87366: Sep 26th 2018 at 9:06:09 AM

[up] Except Yakon.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87367: Sep 26th 2018 at 9:54:27 AM

The arc villain...

Not a grunt...

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#87368: Sep 26th 2018 at 10:18:56 AM

Even so, that's still a ridiculously small number of bad guys killed by Goku. So, let's see who actually kills the most.

Piccolo: Raditz, one Saibaman

Vegeta: One Saibaman, Nappa, Cui, Dodoria, Zarbon, Guldo, Recooome, Burter, Jeice, Android 19, Pui Pui

Yamcha: One Saibaman (by suicide)

Krillin: Three Saibamen

Trunks: Frieza, King Cold

Android 17: Dr. Gero

Gohan: Cell Jrs, Cell

Babidi: Spopovich

Pui Pui: Yamu

Goku: Yakon, Kid Buu

Majin Buu: Dabura, Babidi

Reformed: Piccolo, Vegeta, Android 16, Android 17, Android 18, Fat Buu

Didn't Die: Ginyu, Super Buu

So, it looks like Vegeta killed the most dudes by far.

Edited by Weirdguy149 on Sep 26th 2018 at 1:18:51 PM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87369: Sep 26th 2018 at 12:03:18 PM

Trunks killed 17, 18, and Cell...dude.

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fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
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#87370: Sep 26th 2018 at 12:10:52 PM

Trunks also killed the future Androids. Also the fact that Majin Buu killed fucking everyone except Goku, Satan, Dende, Supreme Kai and Bee.

Conviniently, here is all the major kills visualized. You will see that Goku has most of his kills be from Dragon Ball.

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#87371: Sep 26th 2018 at 12:25:22 PM

[up] Except Yakon.
Yakon killed himself.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#87372: Sep 26th 2018 at 1:15:13 PM

It's a little ambiguous whether Yakon just bit off more than he could chew, or if Goku was force-feeding him ki at some point, and he shoved that ball of Super Saiyan 2 energy into Yakon's mouth, causing him to explode.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Sep 26th 2018 at 1:15:02 AM

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#87373: Sep 26th 2018 at 5:56:27 PM

I was putting down just villains that were killed. The Future Androids were an oversight, though, so my bad on that.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#87374: Sep 27th 2018 at 6:42:27 AM

Super Dragon Ball Heroes episode 4:

Cumber has seen the Super Saiyan God form before. Episode 5 will come out next month.

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#87375: Sep 27th 2018 at 9:39:00 AM

Super Fu, or as I would call him, Serious Fu, was the best part of the episode, as the red hair line of dialogue appeared already in the manga.

Good to see the voice actor can get serious when the time needs him.

Edited by Tomodachi on Sep 27th 2018 at 9:42:38 AM

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