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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87176: Sep 19th 2018 at 5:56:56 PM

Well-written doesn't seem to be a thing then...

"Like"...

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#87177: Sep 19th 2018 at 5:59:32 PM

Well written is also rather subjective and can be different depending on who you ask.

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#87178: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:00:10 PM

I'd nominate Piccolo for tournament worfing to make Gohan mad instead

Raises the apparent threat level and also it's been so long since Gohan got mad at bad things happening to dad 2

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87179: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:08:40 PM

[up][up]Then it certainly doesn't exist.

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lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87180: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:09:51 PM

Well, some people think one meaning of well-written is simply getting across what the audience is supposed to feel for them. In my eyes Future Android 18 is supposed to be hateable and Vados is supposed to be funny, which is why I would consider them well-written. If I agreed with the definition, which I'm not sure about.

[up][up] Neat idea. Maybe instead of bringing in Spopovich and the other guy they could have just had a disguised Dabura beat Piccolo or something? He could have believably stolen Gohan's energy too, with the added benefit of not making Kaioshin look like a tool for restraining Gohan.

Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#87181: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:12:27 PM

Wouldn't have worked, Piccolo would have just pussied out like he did against Kaioshin.

lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87182: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:15:56 PM

Didn't he decide not to fight Kaioshin based on his reputation alone? As far as I remember he didn't know Dabura.

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#87183: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:16:31 PM

[up][up][up] That'd be an interesting flip from the tournament with Piccolo Jr

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The devil in disguise confronting a reformed demon that ate god

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 19th 2018 at 9:16:40 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#87184: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:16:34 PM

[up][up][up]I don't exactly like that phrasing, but probably. Half the issue with Videl is that she just refused to turn out while she was still conscious. You'd have to come up with a pretty good reason for Piccolo to be so stubborn in a situation like this.

[up][up]He didn't even know Shin was a Supreme Kai at the time. He could just tell that he was outclassed.

Edited by LSBK on Sep 19th 2018 at 8:17:16 AM

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87185: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:19:34 PM

Which, he wasn't...considering the dude barely put himself higher than Freeza.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87186: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:22:16 PM

He said 100 times stronger than Frieza.

Last I checked, Piccolo was somewhere between Namek!Frieza and Imperfect Cell after absorbing humans but before absorbing 17.

lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87187: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:23:00 PM

Then I must have remembered that wrong, I guess. Although that begs the question why Piccolo went to the tournament to begin with then, considering he's in a tournament with Goku and Vegeta. He obviously knew he was outclassed right from the start, so...

I did say Dabura would disguise himself. He could suppress his power level, fight evenly with Piccolo for a while, then beat him up when he gets bored. Granted, someone like Piccolo getting worfed to establish the new villains as a threat isn't exactly the pinnacle of amazing writing either.

[down] Heh. Spitballing.

Edited by lara16 on Sep 19th 2018 at 6:23:41 AM

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#87188: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:23:31 PM

[up][up][up] Easy options either disguised Dabura threatens Gohan or bringing up Piccolo's demon past riles him up in some way

Easier option is he just does the thing where he turns Piccolo to stone and then breaks him

But I'm just spitballing

[up] Eyyy!

Edited by Bocaj on Sep 19th 2018 at 9:28:02 AM

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87189: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:27:04 PM

100 times...doesn't seem like a lot. But if it's stronger than the green wind-boy, that's okay.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 19th 2018 at 6:29:46 AM

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#87190: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:28:25 PM

Wait, i thought that Buu Saga Piccolo was around Perfect Cell level. Or at least what's the Latin American dub implied.

Which mind you, at that point that power isn't much

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Kamiccolo Since: May, 2018
#87191: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:37:11 PM

Didn't he decide not to fight Kaioshin based on his reputation alone? As far as I remember he didn't know Dabura.
Nope. When Goku asked him why he gave up, Piccolo said he did it because Kaioshin was strong as fuck compared to him and he was terrified. Daizenshuu 4 further confirms this.
Last I checked, Piccolo was somewhere between Namek!Frieza and Imperfect Cell after absorbing humans but before absorbing 17.
He trained after that, both in the past seven years and in his 1 year in the ROSAT. He should be stronger than Imperfect Cell at that point. Still nothing compared to the purple guy though. Dude could freeze SS 2 Gohan with telekinesis and cancel out a blast meant to kill him.
Then I must have remembered that wrong, I guess. Although that begs the question why Piccolo went to the tournament to begin with then, considering he's in a tournament with Goku and Vegeta. He obviously knew he was outclassed right from the start, so...
He didn't know who Kaioshin was, so while he knew Vegeta and Gohan could knock him out of the ring, the mysterious fighter might make it hurt.
Wait, i thought that Buu Saga Piccolo was around Perfect Cell level. Or at least what's the Latin American dub implied.
He can't be anywhere near that strong, since Goku compares Dabra to Cell, and Kaioshin is both far stronger than Piccolo and far weaker than Dabra.

lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87192: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:45:38 PM

I guess that makes more sense. Although to me Piccolo never really seemed like the kinda guy who'd give up in a tournament because his opponent might do him lasting harm. Then again, I'm pretty sure most of his outmatched fights where the kind where you couldn't just give up and walk away.

It is weird that people think Piccolo is stronger than Kaioshin though. I mean Kaioshin keeps looking like an idiot throughout the saga, but he's not a total wimp. I'll give him credit for at least trying to stand up to Buu and saving Gohan's life.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87193: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:49:42 PM

In fairness, even if the Saiyans are strong enough to handle Dabura, it still might have been nice if they took things more seriously.

Shin isn't actually wrong about them being a bunch of dumbasses.

Edited by unnoun on Sep 19th 2018 at 9:53:02 AM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#87194: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:52:40 PM

Well, that's been obvious for a really, really long time. Also, imagine if Beerus wasn't so crazy lazy.

lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87195: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:54:11 PM

I was more referring to "let these bald dudes absorb the power needed for Buu's revival and just follow them back. i can totally trust these random saiyans to do all the fighting for me. yep, nothing could go wrong with any of that".

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#87196: Sep 19th 2018 at 6:58:17 PM

Huh turns out Vic Mignogna really is returning as Broly.

Everyone please pray for Vic's vocal cords.

She doesn't get phased out...?

Bulma had a pretty substantial presence in the Goku Black arc.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87197: Sep 19th 2018 at 7:00:59 PM

She gets phased in and out...each arc, honestly.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87198: Sep 19th 2018 at 7:02:59 PM

There is that issue of "the fool or the fool who follows him" though, yeah.

The fact that Shin trusted these dumbasses in the first place.

He should know Vegeta's history, probably.

If nothing else, he could have asked for the deets from North Kai.

Vegeta's the dumbass who got his shit wrecked on Earth, goaded and taunted Frieza into wrecking his shit, got goaded and taunted by Android 18 into getting his shit wrecked, and then goaded and taunted Cell into goading and taunting him into helping Cell wreck his shit.

Goku's the dumbass who let Vegeta get away the first time, let Frieza get away the first time, and then got North Kai killed.

lara16 Since: Mar, 2018
#87199: Sep 19th 2018 at 7:06:23 PM

Maybe he was putting all his faith in Gohan to be reasonable. He was more partial to Gohan than Goku and Vegeta. Then again, anyone slightly reasonable would be.

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#87200: Sep 19th 2018 at 7:07:28 PM

to be fair, Goku means Gohan and Vegeta being alive means Trunks

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