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#87051: Sep 17th 2018 at 3:39:13 PM

Spanish Piccolo is a treath

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#87052: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:08:50 PM

His actor basically asked Toriyama during a stream to make 21 canon just so that Piccolo has a GF.

Of course that will never happen due to Piccolo being asexual.

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#87053: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:45:19 PM

What the hell happens in that video game that apparently Piccolo getting a cyborg girlfriend is even halfway reasonable

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87054: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:50:19 PM

[up] Hey! Show some respect.

She's a Cyborg Bubblegum girlfriend. Get it right.

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#87055: Sep 17th 2018 at 5:54:39 PM

...I don't know where to even begin with that...

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#87056: Sep 18th 2018 at 2:42:07 AM

Adding Shin, Buu and Beerus to the Cell recipe is not a wise choice tho...

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87057: Sep 18th 2018 at 5:57:06 AM

...I could be wrong, but I don't think Android 21 and Piccolo even interact in Dragon Ball FighterZ. Like, at all.

Most of her interactions are with:

Goku, who likes eating and fighting, and may or may not (probably, definitely does) care about those things more than his wife. Suggesting emotional cheating, if nothing else. At least insofar as Goku is capable of emotional intimacy at all.

Krillin, who has a thing for Androids.

Android 18, with Android 21 constantly talking about how cute and good-looking and gorgeous Android 18/Lazuli is.

And Android 16, which is more of a mother/son or father/daughter relationship, with the corpse Android 21 was made from having been the mother of the red ribbon soldier Android 16 was based on, but Android 21 herself only having about 10 years of memories. And Android 16 seems to serve more as her minder, keeping check on her emotional state.

EDIT: Oh, I was wrong, she does have a scene with Piccolo.

Like, it could just be me, I could be wrong, I'm aromantic, but that doesnt seem like a very shippy scene?

Edited by unnoun on Sep 18th 2018 at 9:06:11 AM

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#87058: Sep 18th 2018 at 6:05:01 AM

The Krillin one is more Yamcha pointing out how Krillin seems to have a thing for Androids. And 18 overhearing them.

If i were Krillin, i would be careful about 21 stealing his girl considering those comments she made

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87059: Sep 18th 2018 at 6:11:49 AM

Krillin also steps forward to defend 21 and think the best of her, because of the same belief that she deserves a second chance he had for 18.

A belief that may have been motivated by his crush on 18, considering he didn't give Vegeta that benefit of the doubt.

Krillin became a martial artist to get attention from pretty girls, on some level he doesnt seem to want to kill them.

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#87060: Sep 18th 2018 at 6:22:21 AM

I too remember when he put the world in mortal danger because he was unable to destroy the person who explicitly wanted to murder his best friend because she kissed his cheek once.

Sigilbreaker26 Serial Procrastinator Since: Nov, 2017
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#87061: Sep 18th 2018 at 6:26:58 AM

Krillin's change in priorities from "girls" to "getting married" at the Z transition, which would neatly line up with the three-year gap presumably letting Krillin mature a bit. (Mistare Fusion speculates that the out-of-universe reason is Yamcha being phased out of the main gang).

In fairness to Krillin's choice... 18 hadn't done anything really wrong yet at that point, unlike Vegeta who was responsible for four murders, one of whom was one of Krillin's closest friends, and was completely unrepentant.

Still the wrong move, because of, you know, Namekian dragonballs. Blow her up, and have Goku travel there after it's all done and wish her back.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#87062: Sep 18th 2018 at 6:39:17 AM

Android 18 actually has the line "Knock it off, this isn't the time to be swooning over me" in response to Android 21 talking about how "wonderful" 18 is.

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#87063: Sep 18th 2018 at 7:01:47 AM

In fairness to Krillin's choice... 18 hadn't done anything really wrong yet at that point, unlike Vegeta who was responsible for four murders, one of whom was one of Krillin's closest friends, and was completely unrepentant.

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think he knew that Cell needed to absorb 18 to attain his perfect form. Seemed like more of a case of Poor Communication Kills than anything.

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#87064: Sep 18th 2018 at 7:02:24 AM

[up][up] She'd made it clear she wanted to hunt down and murder Krillin's best friend for sport. To his credit, Krillin was the one ready to drive a sword through Vegeta before Goku objected...

[up] He knew at that point.

It's a reason I've always hated 18/Krillin. It just comes off as a creepy Nice Guy fantasy.

Edited by Lightysnake on Sep 18th 2018 at 7:02:56 AM

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#87065: Sep 18th 2018 at 9:04:52 AM

I mean, yeah the part where Krillin doesn't kill her at first is a bit divisive, but i think what he did later for her and 17 was sweet. Dragon Ball isn't exactly good with romance anyway, Toriyama himself said so.

Now, Vegeta on the other hand...boy is he the master of fuckups.

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Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#87066: Sep 18th 2018 at 9:51:15 AM

True, but still, it more compounds the creepy Nice Guy fantasy. "Krillin is so sweet, look what he did for her, of course she'll fall for him, he's so nice!" I mean, Toiryama more or less admitted 18 ended up as Krillin's reward.

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#87067: Sep 18th 2018 at 10:17:26 AM

Krillen did kinda assumed 18 and 17 were a couple rather than siblings so not really sure he was actually expecting a reward and wanted to at the very least give them their lives back. Even the most he could do was have the bombs removed with the dragon balls.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#87068: Sep 18th 2018 at 10:21:30 AM

Dragon Ball isn't exactly good with romance anyway, Toriyama himself said so.

So why does he keep fricking putting it in!? Honestly, outside of being a way to introduce new characters via children (which doesn't go anywhere anyway), there's no reason for him to keep using a concept that he's not good at, and has no desire to improve at.

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#87069: Sep 18th 2018 at 10:30:19 AM

To be fair any kind of show that has people interacting with each other would have some kind of bonds between characters so romance is unavailable in the end.

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#87070: Sep 18th 2018 at 10:49:06 AM

Having watched the Broly movie in theater, my opinion is that I can see how Toriyama got inspired to use him in his own way

It’s janky because it’s old and honestly, not the best I’ve see of Dragon Ball, but there’s some very compelling moments that can be repurposed for something better

And damn does Broly just beat the shit out of everyone

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#87071: Sep 18th 2018 at 11:09:37 AM

Krillen did kinda assumed 18 and 17 were a couple rather than siblings so not really sure he was actually expecting a reward and wanted to at the very least give them their lives back. Even the most he could do was have the bombs removed with the dragon balls.

Not what I meant. The story and writer gave 18 as a reward to Krillen. he didn't ask for it himself.

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#87072: Sep 18th 2018 at 11:25:46 AM

[up] That's right, dying in an alien planet nets you a hot wife eventually. Third death gives you a free sundae.

[up][up] I think Broly would have worked fine if his motivation wasn't too attached to Goku, not to mention how stupid it is. If he were to hate Vegeta and his powers had a lot more thought behind them, he might have been a fine villain.

That said, his second movie sucks balls. Bio-broly is not much better but it's ok

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#87073: Sep 18th 2018 at 11:54:27 AM

[up][up]I get that, but a lot of relationships are probably "rewards" in that sense.

As long as it's not treated like 18 owes Krillin anything, and he's not written to expect anything, I don't see too much of a problem.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#87074: Sep 18th 2018 at 11:59:18 AM

Dragon Ball's written weirdly that the thing to expect from 18 just flying off like that they just never meet up again...

Because that's how the characters just are, but nope...off screen get together and marriage.

At least Vegetarian was really only ever shown to be at Capsule Corp off times.

Edited by randomness4 on Sep 18th 2018 at 11:59:08 AM

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#87075: Sep 18th 2018 at 12:05:12 PM

[up][up] Like Is aid, Toriyama basically admitted that "Krillen's so nice, here's a got love interest."


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