In fairness, considering how much of a useless dead-end it is, I'm not sure the numbering is all that useful for Super Saiyan 3 either.
Super Saiyan 2 allegedly has more stamina drain than regular Super Saiyan, but I don't see it. After Cell Cellf-Destructs, Gohan seemingly falls back to Super Saiyan then powers up right back to Super Saiyan 2 immediately.
Super Saiyan 2's initial disadvantage is that it's born from a Saiyan attaining control over the Super Saiyan state physically and mentally, and then losing all that mental control. It's like going Super Saiyan while Super Saiyan, seemingly.
Which even makes sense with how Full Power Super Saiyan was all about making Super Saiyan like a new base form. With the characters even getting relaxed eyebrows instead of the constant angry and serious look.
Super Saiyan 3 doesnt really seem to deal with that? At least that we're seen or told about it.
what pissed off Goku for him to turn Super Saiyan 3 the first time
I get the feeling that one didn't require rage, but Goku pushing his training to new heights.
There's history there.
My big disappointment with Resurrection F is.
I wish Vegeta had killed Frieza in the timeline where Earth blew up.
Frieza blows up Earth, but Vegeta is still there and able to kill Frieza in the 30 seconds before the vacuum of space kills him.
That would have been a great moment and, honestly, probably how Vegeta always wanted to die growing up.
We've talked about how Vegeta wasn't really owed anything, and for the most part I agree, but I admit it was dickish of Toriyama to set up Vegeta to finally get his revenge, then have Frieza pull a rage quite...and this was after having Goku botch it too.
Subverting expectations and all that. He seems to want it that Goku doesn't win every fight, while simultaneously having everyone else fail even when they shouldn't.
That being said, I'm all over the place with how much Vegeta did or didn't deserve that win over Frieza. We know he can, but I get the feeling he'll never get that clean opportunity, because that seems like Toriyama's style.
One Strip! One Strip!Trunks got to kill Freeza
That's not a terrible consolation prize, that Vegeta's son was the one who finished him off
Forever liveblogging the AvengersThis is Vegeta. Even at his nicest, it probably chafes him that he never got to kill Frieza.
Sure, he likely sees what
says that way now, but for him, it has to be with his own hands.
Well, that's what I say, but he was chill enough about the return of Frieza that he didn't try to step in (in the Battle of Gods version) until Goku couldn't fight anymore.
One Strip! One Strip!That's not what it's about. It's about measuring how much power escalation happened in each arc of the series. People complain about how certain arcs inflated the power escalation, so I broke it down to see just how much certain arcs did Power Creep, and compared them with each other.
On a similar note, I did a rough drawing up of Goku's win/loss ratio, disregarding assisted wins and draws, and got something like 75.68% wins. (37 battles that were not assisted wins or draws, he won 28 of them). I've noticed how many more battles he had in the OG dragonball compared to Z.
Also, the only battle I considered an outright draw was the Majin Vegeta battle; they were evenly matched till the battle was interrupted.
(This was because I was watching a SPW video and he made an offhand comment about shonen protags winning 90-95% of the time and that seemed a fair bit higher than I thought it would be.)
Edited by Sigilbreaker26 on Sep 12th 2018 at 5:33:21 PM
"And when the last law was down and the Devil turned round on you, where would you hide, the laws all being flat?"I'd consider that a win since Goku fulfilled his victory condition. Victory doesn't always mean defeating the enemy.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!Trunks' objective was different.
It's not an assist.
Karrot's role in stopping Boo would be the assist, not the other way around.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Nobody helped him fight Boo...
Fighting Boo stalled Babidi from getting to West City where Trunks was suppose to get the radar.
That's the assist.
Edited by randomness4 on Sep 12th 2018 at 5:35:45 AM
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
I assume you mean because Vegeta is the reason Cell is perfect?
It's Vegeta. He deserves it.
One Strip! One Strip!Only if everyone does
Or was everyone blasting Cell ineffectually an anime only thing?
Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Partially because I'm crazy, and partially for an entirely separate reason, I decided to test the power inflation of this series. I boiled down all power gaps in this franchise into 51 tiers, ranging from the start of the series to the end of Super. These tiers are determined either with a major plot substantial gap or by increments of 2-3 times multipliers. Anything smaller than "important and large gap" or "1.4x stronger" isn't counted as a separate tier of power. I will be counting how much power inflation is introduced per arc, which means how many tiers of power each arc adds onto the last one. Non-combatants and average humans are exempt. Outliers will be mentioned and excluded on a case-by-case basis.