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EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#86851: Sep 11th 2018 at 9:56:55 AM

they never looked up

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86852: Sep 11th 2018 at 9:57:56 AM

What kind of nerd doesn't look at the sky on a semi-regular basis?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#86853: Sep 11th 2018 at 10:03:21 AM

Too busy keeping his nose in his books.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#86854: Sep 11th 2018 at 10:22:04 AM

Goku sure wasn't.

Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#86855: Sep 11th 2018 at 10:22:39 AM

Full moon in the daytime. tongue

Edit:

Earth is on the pitcher's mound, and the sun is behind home plate. The moon orbits the bases in roughly 28 days, but it can be above or below the plane on which Earth and the planets orbit the sun. In order to see the moon at second base, you have to be facing away from the sun, which is nighttime by definition.

Edited by Sailor11sedna on Sep 11th 2018 at 3:49:57 AM

GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#86856: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:03:10 PM

It seems like it is only Goku and Vegeta are the only Saiyans who get powerups in Super.

"Mai waifu."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#86857: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:05:59 PM

Well they are the main characters.

Wait Future Trunks got one.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 11th 2018 at 3:05:48 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#86858: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:06:33 PM

I mean, Goku, Vegeta, and the progeny are very obviously giant outliers among Saiyans.

Which is why the proposed "Tien should just wish he's a Saiyan" thing (if that was brought up in this thread and not the abridged one) wouldn't really make a difference. Tien just doesn't have their natural talent and also apparently trains in a really efficient way to boot.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#86859: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:08:44 PM

Goku: "Alright, both of my spawn are losers and the future indicates that my trainee will be a loser, too. Fuck passing the torch, I guess I'll just hold it til I die. Then y'all are fucked, so you'd better wish me immortal."

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#86860: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:15:38 PM

Uub:"Hey, that was an alternate timeline, I could become strong in this one"

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#86861: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:18:49 PM

So when does the movie come out? Has a date even been announced?

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#86862: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:19:51 PM

Gohan didn't get a new form or anything but once he got his ultimate form back he was way stronger than he was in the Buu saga.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#86863: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:20:41 PM

[up][up] December in Japan & January everywhere else.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#86864: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:27:33 PM

[nja] [up]x3: Japan gets the movie on December 14th, 2018. The USA (and certain Western territories like Latin America) gets it roughly on January 2019 (only dubbed).

The producer stated that he wanted the film to premiere in major territories roughly within the same time frame to "reduce piracy" and lessen the usual buffer between the original and international releases.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Sep 11th 2018 at 6:29:33 AM

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#86865: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:28:36 PM

[up]x5 Goku: "Kid, have you seen the writing? No one matters but me, sometimes Vegeta,and 17 for some goddamn reason. You were fucked before you were born."

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Sep 11th 2018 at 6:28:13 AM

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: In love with love
Formerly G.G.
#86866: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:41:53 PM

Toriyama doesn't really know what do with those characters, it would better if they stayed retired or they just not appear.

"Mai waifu."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86867: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:49:17 PM

Agreed. Not that I trust him to do much with newer characters either.

Well, Beerus and Whis are fine, since he clearly loves them, but poor Goten and Trunks will never be allowed to reach whatever potential they might have.

Which characters Toriyama seems to want to work with, and which ones he just tosses away after whatever single purpose he created them for seems totally random.

One Strip! One Strip!
Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#86868: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:52:15 PM

Japan isn't as big on "passing the torch" as one might think. They don't often like to see the kohai surpass the senpai. It took until the Saiyan saga for Krillin to surpass Roshi.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86869: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:56:05 PM

Really?

But what about stuff like Gurren Lagann, which has passing the torch to the next generation as one of its lessons?

I've never heard of them not being fans of torch passing. I mean, considering how often american comics try to replace an old character, only to have some writer who loved that guy in his youth write him back in...

<Hal Jordan, Barry Allen, etc, all shrug>

...I'd say it's more of a thing here to be against passing the torch.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#86870: Sep 11th 2018 at 3:56:43 PM

And according to some dubious comments, not even then maybe

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Sailor11sedna Since: Aug, 2011
#86871: Sep 11th 2018 at 4:09:32 PM

Maybe it's more of a thing in Japanese culture than Japanese fiction. I suppose Gohan just liked his normal life too much, and Goten and Trunks lived too much of their lives in peaceful times.

Honestly, I want Vegeta to be the Big Darn Hero of the next Freeza arc, even if he is already second billing. But one day, Gotenks or Piccolo for MVP.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#86872: Sep 11th 2018 at 4:21:22 PM

No.

Vegeta is the only one where his role is what it should be.

He was an asshole doing it for his own ego, and his every victory was to make his constant losses stand out more. As has been said here, he's an effective Worf, because it feels like Toriyama actually made the effort to build him up so his failures meant something.

He's the only one where I'm fine with what he got, and he doesn't need any victories...which of course means he'll get exactly that.

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Fedetropes Call me Blast, not Fedetropes from Doomed universe Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#86873: Sep 11th 2018 at 5:43:13 PM

I remembered that it was stated somewhere that super saiyan 4 wasn't actually super saiyan 4 but rather it's own thing and it's only named like thay for convenience sake.

So if you had to make it's own name for it, what would you call it?

I think there's already an official one, "ultimaye saiyan" (xenoverse seems to be fond of calling it that) but I do have some fanon names (like perfect oozaru, primal saiyan and other such bad names).

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#86874: Sep 11th 2018 at 6:01:10 PM

I feel like if there's a victory Vegeta maybe deserved, it's Frieza.

There's history there.

My big disappointment with Resurrection F is.

I wish Vegeta had killed Frieza in the timeline where Earth blew up.

Frieza blows up Earth, but Vegeta is still there and able to kill Frieza in the 30 seconds before the vacuum of space kills him.

That would have been a great moment and, honestly, probably how Vegeta always wanted to die growing up.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#86875: Sep 11th 2018 at 6:03:16 PM

I think Primal Saiyan is a fitting name, but doesn't really sound as impressive as 'Super Saiyan' even if it is more descriptive.

Even if it's less accurate, I prefer the simplicity of Super Saiyan 4. It's named in-universe anyway.

I don't really like something like 'Ultimate Saiyan' because it's only nominally different from 'Super Saiyan' and doesn't really distinguish what is different.

If I had to change it, I'd probably call it Super Saiyan Primal or Primal Super Saiyan, whatever order sounds best. At least then it's still clear that it's not part of the numbered hierarchy of forms.

The fact that the form comes from Golden Oozaru means that it's not entirely separate from Super Saiyan. So I think it's just the numbering that is inaccurate, because it appears to be a different path of Super Saiyan.


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